The beginning of the end for sledging?

[luckyeddie]

The point is that it's part and parcel of every day life in major sports world-wide and has been for many, many years - it's simply being blown out of all proportion here because of a broader issue

I guess you don't play golf.

 

[Top_Cat]

What would happen if someone repeated their on-field sledging in the street?

Confrontation at least.

Don't think it's analogous. Two random people in the street are not in competition or involved in any way so it's just abuse, really. Remember, as many commentators have said, context is everything.

If you sledged a random stranger in a pub, expect them to get affronted. If you were in the midst of a game of pool with said stranger in a pub and you sledged them, I'd suggest the reaction would be different.

 

[silentstriker]

Don't think it's analogous. Two random people in the street are not in competition or involved in any way so it's just abuse, really. Remember, as many commentators have said, context is everything.

If you sledged a random stranger in a pub, expect them to get affronted. If you were in the midst of a game of pool with said stranger in a pub and you sledged them, I'd suggest the reaction would be different.

But if you said 'Man, you're not making that shot, you suck', it's one thing, but if you started saying expletives and mouthing off personal insults, you'd have a different reaction too.

 

[Top_Cat]

But if you said 'Man, you're not making that shot, you suck', it's one thing, but if you started saying expletives and mouthing off personal insults, you'd have a different reaction too.

But both of those come under the banner of sledging and what some people are advocating is banning all of it. Can't be done for a myriad of reasons.

 

[Captain Cricket]

I'd say Italian football incorporates more sledging than Spanish football, but I still think sledging will continue for many years to come, 12 years won't make much of a difference.

 

[duffer]

Anyone here played any level of Basketball? The accepted 'trash talk' that goes on in some of those games would make your toes curl. What we saw in Sydney was kindergarten copared to some other sports.

 

[Matt79]

I think there's a distinction between contact and non-contact sports. And for this purpose, I'd class basketball as contact. And the distinction is there because talking too much takes a lot more guts when there's the opportunity for the opponent to put some physical hurt back on you.

 

[silentstriker]

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/talk/content/current/multimedia/330974.html

Related cricinfo round table.

 

[social]

I think there's a distinction between contact and non-contact sports. And for this purpose, I'd class basketball as contact. And the distinction is there because talking too much takes a lot more guts when there's the opportunity for the opponent to put some physical hurt back on you.

Basketball can only losely be termed "contact"- it's basically (aside from a bit of argy bargy) touch and a foul will be called against you

Soccer/ football is the same - a "hard man" is someone that kicks you

I'd take the possibility of being kicked or pushed before being hit in the throat by a rock from 22 yards every day of the week

 

[pup11]

Basketball can only losely be termed "contact"- it's basically (aside from a bit of argy bargy) touch and a foul will be called against you

Soccer/ football is the same - a "hard man" is someone that kicks you

I'd take the possibility of being kicked or pushed before being hit in the throat by a rock from 22 yards every day of the week

I don't think there is any sports that can be termed as gentle-manly in today's times, the competiton is cut-throat, people are becoming more and more impatient due to hectic pace of life and its the effect of changing times that we see on cricket too.
Sledging has always been the part every sport, the viciousness keeps varying from one sport to the another, of course one can say cricket is not a contact sport so we don't often see nasty words exchanged on a cricketing field, but the emotions run high in cricket because of the kind of focus and hard-work the sport demands, its duration is pretty long as compared to other sports and a player is more than likely to loose his concentration and say something bad on-field, but to give the cricketers around the world, they have more or less behaved very decently when you compare it to other sports.
Completly scrapping sledging is just not realistic or right, it will just take some essence out the game and make it look very mechanical, as long as the players don't cross the line of tolerance, i think we would be fine.

 

[social]

I don't think there is any sports that can be termed as gentle-manly in today's times, the competiton is cut-throat, people are becoming more and more impatient due to hectic pace of life and its the effect of changing times that we see on cricket too.
Sledging has always been the part every sport, the viciousness keeps varying from one sport to the another, of course one can say cricket is not a contact sport so we don't often see nasty words exchanged on a cricketing field, but the emotions run high in cricket because of the kind of focus and hard-work the sport demands, its duration is pretty long as compared to other sports and a player is more than likely to loose his concentration and say something bad on-field, but to give the cricketers around the world, they have more or less behaved very decently when you compare it to other sports.
Completly scrapping sledging is just not realistic or right, it will just take some essence out the game and make it look very mechanical, as long as the players don't cross the line of tolerance, i think we would be fine.

Sorry, but let's not kid ourselves - just because Joe Public doesnt hear the sledging doesnt mean it doesnt happen in virtually every game

And let's not even try and suggest that it's gotten worse because it hasnt (as an example, when stump-mikes were first introduced in the 70s, the "innocent" public were so outraged, they had to be turned off again)