The Australian team - A disgrace to the game

[Sanz]

The point was, If Azhar wants to influence a cricketer, he can do it at a social gathering or by making a phone call or by many other means, so restricting a player from entering into a cricket ground/stadium either as a commentator or as a spectator isn't really going to help in anything.

That said, IMO I dont think Azhar will ever get a job where he would be required to interact with internatioal players or cricket officials.I certainly wouldn't want him doing that.

 

[Tom Halsey]

What an interesting comment.

Agreed. Nookie's most blinkered view yet.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Exactly and what is Gibbs doing in South African Team ?? What is Warne doing ?

Gibbs and Warne were not match fixers.

I have Warnie's autobiography, and the guy he recieved money from he didn't know was a bookie. He was a friend of Mark Waugh's, so maybe Waugh knew? Hard to believe as he was one of Warne's best friends and also got fined.

 

[Tom Halsey]

but i do follow sri lankan cricket.

Oh really?

I'd never have guessed!

 

[Tom Halsey]

since when did u become god ??? to kick me out of the forum my ***

Since when did he say he'd become God?

 

[Tom Halsey]

Oh, what a beastly person to do such a thing. Isn't Kaif a naughty boy?

How dare he be so unfriendly.

ROFLMAO.

 

[Sanz]

Gibbs and Warne were not match fixers.

I have Warnie's autobiography, and the guy he recieved money from he didn't know was a bookie. He was a friend of Mark Waugh's, so maybe Waugh knew? Hard to believe as he was one of Warne's best friends and also got fined.

"Gibbs and Williams both pleaded guilty to charges of accepting an offer to underperform in a one-day international in India earlier this year. Gibbs also pleaded guilty to additional charge of lying about his involvement. Pieter Strydom, meanwhile, was acquitted on a charge of attempting to place a bet during the Centurion Park Test match. "

http://www.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2000/AUG/049325_CI_28AUG2000.html

As for warnie's words in his autobiography, you dont expect him to write something like 'I fixed matches' or 'I knew MK or whoever', do you ?

Why would anyone pay you 1000s of Dollars for some information he can get from weather.com

 

[marc71178]

I have Warnie's autobiography, and the guy he recieved money from he didn't know was a bookie.

Well while he's still playing, he's hardly likely to say anything other than that is he?!

 

[Anil]

There's a difference between inciting (as Azhar and Cronje did) and being incited (Gibbs)

yes, one is being greedy, treacherous and manipulative and the other is being weak(easily manipulated), greedy and treacherous. oh yeah, big difference!!!

 

[Langeveldt]

Ok, IM going to comment on this one anyway.

Even if Martyn did say what he did (I dont beleive it for a second! ), doesnt really give Pathan the right to clap in Marto's face. The alleged comment is sledging, Marto wouldve been trying to put Pathan of his bowling. The clapping in his face after he's been dismissed is not sledging, its just disrespectful, it has no effect on the game whatsoever.

Haha, Linda... If Martyn did call Pathan a little piece of ****.. then i am willing to eat my words completely..

Since when has that ever been acceptable?

 

[marc71178]

yes, one is being greedy, treacherous and manipulative and the other is being weak(easily manipulated), greedy and treacherous. oh yeah, big difference!!!

OK, Gibbs did wrong, although incidentally he never actually "performed" so to speak.

However the real offenders were the ones who were the ones running the show - there is a huge difference in the level of offences IMO.

 

[Linda]

Haha, Linda... If Martyn did call Pathan a little piece of ****.. then i am willing to eat my words completely..

Since when has that ever been acceptable?

Its sledging! Harsh sledging of course, lol, but Pathan's act wasnt sledging was it? He did it after Martyn had been dismissed, so it no effect on the game, and thats what sledging is for isnt it?

Im trying not to be bias here, but whatever I say with Marto involved people automatically think so! (sure, im skimming lightly here, but if it were another player I'd say the same thing)

 

[garage flower]

Although McGrath's reaction was perhaps OTT, I think the circumstances mitigated it slightly QUOTE]

"Perhaps OTT"?!. From memory, didn't he scream abuse in his face and threaten to rip his throat out. What reaction would you need to be sure it was OTT??

 

[garage flower]

Its sledging! Harsh sledging of course, lol, but Pathan's act wasnt sledging was it? He did it after Martyn had been dismissed, so it no effect on the game, and thats what sledging is for isnt it?

Right, so sarcasm's out, but witless abuse is in?

 

[Sanz]

OK, Gibbs did wrong, although incidentally he never actually "performed" so to speak.

However the real offenders were the ones who were the ones running the show - there is a huge difference in the level of offences IMO.

Not really, Gibbs took the money to underperform and and part of this whole scandal. To me it doesn't matter whether he was actually running the show or not

I am pretty sure that had Azhar been as young as Warnie or Gibbs there was a very good chance that he would have been let go like many others.

 

[marc71178]

Warne?

Where's he come into this?

 

[Tom Halsey]

Well while he's still playing, he's hardly likely to say anything other than that is he?!

True, but numerous people have also backed up his story.

 

[Sanz]

True, but numerous people have also backed up his story.

Well, how can they backup this story unless they were physically present when Warnie was offered the money ??

 

[marc71178]

No, it's obvious - Warne took the money in full view of 1000 people, none of whom thought they'd tell the media or the ICC!

Stop being so unfriendly Sanz!

 

[FRAZ]

The ausies are so used to winning they dont know how to cope defeat. On many occations Australia try to demoralise the opposing team by sledging, passing racist comments and even physical abuse. Is this the way the gentlemens game should be played ???

You know what every top spot is being challenged through out the history of mankind . They deseve it . Hats off to Australia. Yeah but this white black $hit is in abundance in Australia and actually racism level in Australia is way more than any other society , because they have nt been living border to border with any other country .
I dont think that they tried any stupid thing while playing Pakistan , Because they know their heads can come off by the bouncers and bodyline bowling on the pitch . Once Lilly tried that and he had to hide behind the umpire to save himself from THE BAT OF Javed Miandad . Because winning and losing is a different thing but if One watches a posessive team (nature wise) , Then it is the law of nature that Aussies or any other top team is gonna bully them . So I dont mind these things at all . There is a difference between Bullying and giving racist comments , If some one gives a racist comments then his face should be broken at the spot , And this is the mistake of the victums that they took those comments and talking about them in the media later while taking care of the future , career and media criticism . If they were men enough then they should have kicked the a$$ of the person who gave the racist comments on the field right away . Mano a mano . I think every one is gonna agree with this .