The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[Gob]

the way cricket chat works is that the regulars have their say and since we have all known each other for 15 years or so, we call really stupid things stupid and move on. we have made our points for a decade and repeating them is ****ing boring. so we try and get to know each other better as people and socialize. this cricket in depth discussion **** is boring unless it is technical **** that is being discussed or lighthearted trolling. and everyone loves piling on a new **** coming in and acting like a snob.

Fair enough. Especially these trying times put things in to perspective.

But my point being, even if the regulars don't post or re do the same discussions, it's not nice to see that line of arguments and I just pointed that out. Not that I care awful lot about it

 

[Gob]

Did Gob get the first and last characters of his user id interchanged by mistake ? Can still rectify it I guess.

Post reported

 

[Gob]

check out the Off Topic Games sub forum.

Will do

 

[Pratters]

Recently I saw this cricinfo article where anantha said shakib is better than sobers putting across some random numbers. Sobers had the better moustache too. Just utter madness.

 

[Ymaxxx]

"anantha said shakib is better than sobers putting across some random numbers. Sobers had the better moustache too. Just utter madness."

sounds exactly like this forum's indians trying to compare Jadeja to actual atgs. Bizzare

 

[Pratters]

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"anantha said shakib is better than sobers putting across some random numbers. Sobers had the better moustache too. Just utter madness."

sounds exactly like this forum's indians trying to compare Jadeja to actual atgs. Bizzare

Anantha never talked about moustaches tbf

 

[weeman27bob]

imo india atg team will beat the rest of the world atg team because they don't have jadeja

False. Based on this definitive India atg team, it would be a draw because neither team have Jadeja

To that end, I reckon my XI would go something like:

Gavaskar
Sehwag
Dravid
Tendulkar
Kohli
Dhoni
Kapil Dev
Ashwin
Kumble
Shami
Bedi

 

[Ymaxxx]

sehwag - spin
sachin - spin
ashwin - spin
kumble - spin
bedi - spin

great variety in that lineup bro ?

 

[Daemon]

"anantha said shakib is better than sobers putting across some random numbers. Sobers had the better moustache too. Just utter madness."

sounds exactly like this forum's indians trying to compare Jadeja to actual atgs. Bizzare

you do realise all of this is tongue in cheek right

there is no comparison between Jadeja and actual atgs, he’s miles ahead

 

[_00_deathscar]

you do realise all of this is tongue in cheek right

there is no comparison between Jadeja and actual atgs, he’s miles ahead

Beat me to it.

Won't beat me to the beating off to Jaddu though.

 

[cnerd123]

Recently I saw this cricinfo article where anantha said shakib is better than sobers putting across some random numbers. Sobers had the better moustache too. Just utter madness.

Is Shakib Al Hasan a greater allrounder than Garry Sobers?

And does R Ashwin rank higher than Imran Khan? A comprehensive analysis of the numbers reveals all

www.espncricinfo.com

interesting statistical exercise, doesn't really prove anything except that perhaps the gap between Shakib's bowling record and Sobers' bowling record is slightly greater than the gap between their batting records. But we all know Sobers was a better bowler than his record indicates, and arguably a better batsman too given the era he played in - this exercise does not factor in how much easier batting was for the early part of Shakib's career.

 

[Burgey]

His best one was surely in Melbourne five minutes after he'd absolutely BBQ'ed his captain.

 

[Burgey]

Bet you guys feel much better about my posting now

No.

I mean, the past few pages thrown up overnight are complete **** save for Gob's efforts, but your posting is still junk.

Much like your face.

And your posts. Again.

 

[ankitj]

Burgey commenting on quality of other people's posts is like Kim Jong Un commenting on other country's record on human rights.

 

[stephen]

Burgey commenting on quality of other people's posts is like Kim Jong Un commenting on other country's record on human rights.

Indian fans commenting on cricket is like Lenin commenting on the long term economic viability of the Soviet Union.

 

[h_hurricane]

Burgey commenting on quality of other people's posts is like Kim Jong Un commenting on other country's record on human rights.

15 years and 77K posts and no test series victories in India and England. Most sane people would be driven crazy by that kind of lack of success, let alone someone like him. An incredible amalgam of unprecedented mediocrity and fruitless longevity. i just hope the desperate, persevering soul finds some light at the end of the day.

As of now, his figures look like 176.5-0-851-0

 

[The Sean]

Can't justify 3 spinners unless it's a dust bowl tbh. Kapil, Zaheer and Bumrah are a decent attack. Ashwin is the first spinner I'd pick. Not sold on the second spinner though you could go with Jadeja if you consider his batting but he is a significant downgrade from Kumble as a bowler and I don't think he'd contribute much with the bat if he was facing another ATG attack. Although Kumble turns the ball in the same direction as Ashwin so maybe Prasanna I guess. Heard some good things about him

Yeah, definitely take your point and I went back and forth on that myself as I was uncomfortable with just two quicks and stacking the side with spinners - completely agree that there are pitches that wouldn't work on at all and it would be a horses-for-courses situation.

Where I was coming from was simply trying to make the Indian side most effective relative to the other all-time sides they'd be up against in this kind of hypothetical situation - the quicks you mention do indeed comprise a "decent" attack (in fact, it's a very good attack) but still well behind the pace attacks of at least five or six other teams at this level, whereas India's spinners would be more than a match for almost any other team and would cause far more havoc in favourable conditions against the opposing batsmen than I think those seamers would (again, relatively speaking). Definitely more of a dustbowl attack for sure though, and less likely to consistently take 20 wickets in unhelpful conditions.

Also, did you know that Kumble and Ashwin don't spin the ball in the same direction? I don't think anyone else has picked you up on it.

 

[stephen]

15 years and 77K posts and no test series victories in India and England. Most sane people would be driven crazy by that kind of lack of success, let alone someone like him. An incredible amalgam of unprecedented mediocrity and fruitless longevity. i just hope the desperate, persevering soul finds some light at the end of the day.

As of now, his figures look like 176.5-0-851-0

It's only really England that's important though and there's been plenty of success there over the years.

 

[The Sean]

Hey mate, great to hear from you. Hope you’re doing well.

Glad to see you back posting man. Hope all is well with you?

Thanks guys, much appreciated - all fine here, thank you. I hope you're well too.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

The best The Sean moment (that I can remember) was when he was doing a something like a top fifty (or something, I can't remember the exact number) cricketers and a new fake The Sean account put Don Bradman at number 8. It took some people a long time to realise it was a joke. I don't think silentstriker ever did.