The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[bagapath]

World Record Holders for most runs/wickets in my lifetime XI

Gavaskar
Boycott
Lara
Tendulkar
Border *
Botham
Gilchrist +
Hadlee
Warne
Lillee
Murali

Reserves: Walsh, Kapil

 

[bagapath]

Forgotten champions XI

Bill Ponsford
Conrad Hunte
Clem Hill
Dudley Nourse Jr
Ted Dexter
Tony Greig *
Syed Kirmani +
Brian Statham
Garth McKenzie
Fazal Mahmood
Subhash Gupte

 

[Coronis]

SC side (including players from every country)

Gavaskar
Sehwag
Dravid
Tendulkar
Sanga+
Miandad
Imran*
Shakib
Wasim
Muralitharan
Waqar

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Sobers and Barnes were very close. The peaks are based on adjusted performances across 50 innings.

I like to see Sobers 7 yrs peak adjusted figures
70 ish with bat and high 20s with ball while taking 4 wickets per test.

 

[stephen]

Oceanic ATXI:

Trumper
Hayden
Bradman
Chappell
Border
Miller
Gilchrist
Hadlee
Warne
Lillee
McGrath

Oceana + South Africa ATXI

Smith
Hayden
Bradman
Chappell
Border
Kallis
Gilchrist
Hadlee
Warne
Steyn
McGrath

SENA XI

Hobbs
Hutton
Bradman
Chappell
Border
Kallis
Gilchrist
Hadlee
Warne
Steyn
McGrath

Asia + WI XI to face the SENA XI

Gavaskar
Greenidge
Richards
Tendulkar
Sangakkara
Sobers
Imran
Dujon
Marshall
Wasim
Ambrose
Murali

Nobody good enough from Bangladesh unfortunately. Bowling is potentially better than the SENA bowling but batting is a rung or two below, mostly because of Bradman, but also because Imran wasn't as good with the bat as Kallis.

 

[stephen]

United Indiastan XI:

Gavaskar
Sehwag
Miandad
Tendulkar
Mohammed Yousef
Imran
Dhoni
Dev
Wasim
Waqar
Kumble

Ashes XI:

Hobbs
Hutton
Bradman
Chappell
Border
Miller
Gilchrist
Warne
Trueman
Lillee
McGrath

 

[ankitj]

SC side (including players from every country)

Gavaskar
Sehwag
Dravid
Tendulkar
Sanga+
Miandad
Imran*
Shakib
Wasim
Muralitharan
Waqar

Shakib is a forced representation there. There are many better options starting like Kapil Dev, Fazal, Mankad, Ashwin etc.

 

[jimmy101]

Nice work Stephen! Although the Asia/WI team has 12 players.

Allow me to throw down a coupla 'A' team to function as a curtain-raiser match.

SENA A

Trumper
Sutcliffe
Hammond
G Pollock
Grace*
Miller
Ames+
Procter
Lillee
O'Reilly
Barnes

Asia/WI

Merchant
Hunte
Headley
Lara
Dravid
Worrell*
Dhoni+
Constantine
Kumble
Holding
Hall

 

[Coronis]

Shakib is a forced representation there. There are many better options starting like Kapil Dev, Fazal, Mankad, Ashwin etc.

Literally says in the title “including every country”.

 

[ankitj]

Literally says in the title “including every country”.

Oh well, sorry then.

 

[vcs]

United Indiastan XI:

Gavaskar
Sehwag
Miandad
Tendulkar
Mohammed Yousef
Imran
Dhoni
Dev
Wasim
Waqar
Kumble

Ashes XI:

Hobbs
Hutton
Bradman
Chappell
Border
Miller
Gilchrist
Warne
Trueman
Lillee
McGrath

Good team, I would take Younis Khan ahead of Yousuf though.

 

[_00_deathscar]

Good team, I would take Younis Khan ahead of Yousuf though.

Wouldn't take either. Understand taking Miandad, but think I'd go with Dravid for the other spot then, and going one further, would also get Sanga in as keeper over Dhoni just because Sanga was a bloody good batsman.

 

[vcs]

Yeah, I'm not sure about Younis vs. Miandad. Maybe push Miandad down to 5 and have Dravid at 3. Also, there's got to be a better option than Dhoni..

 

[trundler]

Why are people forgetting Kirimani? Far superior keeper to Dhoni and a very good batsman too, almost Gilchrist-like although not of the same class.

Anyway:
Hanif
Gavaskar
Dravid
Tendulkar
Sangakarra
Younis
Imran
Kirimani +
Wasim
Waqar
Gupte

A top 3 I wouldn't wish on any bowler, or spectator.

 

[bagapath]

India eaters XI last 40 years

Jayasuriya
Gooch
Zaheer
Miandad
A Flower +
Imran *
Botham
S. Pollock
Hadlee
Marshall
Donald

 

[Bolo]

Jaya, gooch and Botham looked like they are a few in their day. Miandad might have squirrelled one away in each cheek for later, but I'm not sure he ever got around to eating them.

 

[stephen]

Nice work Stephen! Although the Asia/WI team has 12 players.

Allow me to throw down a coupla 'A' team to function as a curtain-raiser match.

SENA A

Trumper
Sutcliffe
Hammond
G Pollock
Grace*
Miller
Ames+
Procter
Lillee
O'Reilly
Barnes

Asia/WI

Merchant
Hunte
Headley
Lara
Dravid
Worrell*
Dhoni+
Constantine
Kumble
Holding
Hall

Much as it pains me, I think I'm dropping Ambrose to 12th man. So you can take him over Hall. And Garner needs to be in your team.

I usually create teams by using the wicket keeper as my point of reference, so having Dujon at 8 messed with my brain.

 

[jimmy101]

Much as it pains me, I think I'm dropping Ambrose to 12th man. So you can take him over Hall. And Garner needs to be in your team.

I usually create teams by using the wicket keeper as my point of reference, so having Dujon at 8 messed with my brain.

Nice, Amby will be welcomed with open arms. Yes, Garner/Hall was a tough decision. Big bird could easily slot in for Big Wes.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Wouldn't take either. Understand taking Miandad, but think I'd go with Dravid for the other spot then, and going one further, would also get Sanga in as keeper over Dhoni just because Sanga was a bloody good batsman.

I would take Sanga over Dhoni easily for Tests, even if it means Sanga has to keep

Asia don't have a Gilchrist who demands selection based on such superior batting+wicket keeping

 

[_00_deathscar]

I would take Sanga over Dhoni easily for Tests, even if it means Sanga has to keep

Asia don't have a Gilchrist who demands selection based on such superior batting+wicket keeping

Exactly - Dhoni was a pretty decent keeper (can't comment as much on Kirmani) and Sanga was not as good a keeper but makes up for it with far, far superior bating (I guess not that you really need it in any ATG teams as they will be stacked regardless?).

But dearth of options means you have to pick one or the other...

Although I like what trundler has done and fit in both Kirmani and Sanga. Would have Miandad over his Younis selection though.