The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[Howe_zat]

Name-based Childish Innuendo XI:

Fakhar Zaman
Salman Butt
Joe Root
Hardik Pandya
Niroshan Dickwella
B.J. Watling
Quinton De Kock
David Willey
Mark Wood
Ryan Sidebottom
Jake Ball

I've tried this before and Dick Spooner was a dead cert. Also need to find room for Shahid Mahboob

'Mahboob looks good from side-on.'
'Mahboob has been completely exposed today.'
'Mahboob was milked throughout the middle overs.'

 

[srbhkshk]

BTW, what's the general consensus on how an ATG All Rounder XI will do against an ATG Specialist XI?

 

[smash84]

BTW, what's the general consensus on how an ATG All Rounder XI will do against an ATG Specialist XI?

the specialist 11 should win

 

[vcs]

I've tried this before and Dick Spooner was a dead cert. Also need to find room for Shahid Mahboob

Yeah it was inspired by your effort

 

[Shri]

Ok lets stop dicking around.

 

[tobe_ornot2]

My squad made of the best cricketers I have actually watched in my lifetime. So here goes:

1. S. Tendulkar
2. M. Hayden
3. R. Ponting c
4. B. Lara
5. M. Yousuf
6. A. Gilchrist wk
7. S. Pollock
8. W. Akram
9. M. Muralitharan
10. W. Younis
11. G. McGrath

12th man - A. Cook
13th man - J. Kallis (depending on conditions can slot into place instead of Yousuf)
14th man - S. Warne (if there is a need for 2 spinners)
15th man - ABD (slots in if there's a need for an extended period of ODI play)

 

[stephen]

I would play Warne over Murali. It's too long of a tail otherwise, especially with Gilchrist at 6 and Pollock at 7.

In fact, from your squad I would play Kallis over Pollock as the 5th bowling option. Kallis is a much better bat and with Wasim, Waqar and McGrath you aren't going to need a fourth quick.

 

[Red]

Richards
Hutton
Bradman
Pollock
Richards
Sobers
Gilchrist
Wasim
Marshall
Warne
Ambrose

 

[tobe_ornot2]

I would play Warne over Murali. It's too long of a tail otherwise, especially with Gilchrist at 6 and Pollock at 7.

In fact, from your squad I would play Kallis over Pollock as the 5th bowling option. Kallis is a much better bat and with Wasim, Waqar and McGrath you aren't going to need a fourth quick.

Keep in mind this is a team I've picked for all formats and I feel Murali was simply the better all round bowler. Warne was nowhere near as good as the little Sri Lankan master in the limited overs game and they are pretty much on par in tests. Plus, I don't think Gilly and Pollock are anywhere close to being tailenders but I see the point about Kallis...that however adds an issue with the most underrated batsman of our time, Yousuf. Where does he bat? I feel 6 would be too low for him and I really wouldn't want to move Lara down and Yousuf up.

 

[Gowza]

Richards
Hobbs
Bradman
Pollock
Richards
Sobers
Gilchrist
Miller
Procter
Imran
Warne

 

[bagapath]

A team of rejects for tests and ODIs

Saeed Anwar
Graeme Smith *
Inzamam Ul Haq
Michael Clarke
Shiv Chanderpal
Shakib All Hasan
Matt Prior +
Andrew Flintoff
Mitchell Johnson
Saqlain Mushtaq
Courtney Walsh

 

[Red]

Richards
Hobbs
Bradman
Pollock
Richards
Sobers
Gilchrist
Miller
Procter
Imran
Warne

Hutton
Gavaskar
Ponting
Tendulkar
Lara
Kallis
Knott +
Wasim
Ambrose
O'Reilly
McGrath

 

[bagapath]

Most runs and wickets by position XI

1. Sunil Gavaskar
2. Desmond Haynes
3. Kumar Sangakara
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Shiv Chanderpal
6. Steve Waugh (c)
7. Adam Gilchrist (wk)
8. Ian Botham (3)
9. Makhaya Ntini (2)
10. Mutthiah Muralitharan (4)
11. Glen McGrath (1)

 

[stephen]

How did beefy make that team? Mandatory all rounder?

 

[bagapath]

How did beefy make that team? Mandatory all rounder?

Most wickets at first change for a pace bowler

 

[Howe_zat]

I'm sure Hayden has the most runs by a #2 batsman comfortably.

Including the lower order top scorers still gives you a pretty good attack too.

Most runs by position XI

1. Gavaskar
2. Hayden
3. Sangakkara
4. Tendulkar
5. Chanderpaul
6. Waugh
7. Gilchrist
8. Vettori
9. Broad
10. Steyn
11. Muralitharan

You could also reasonably include Kumble as the top wicket taker at first change.

Looking at the other positions throws up a few unexpected names, though they could do with a few more jammy part timers to strengthen the middle order.

Most wickets by position XI

1. Wasim Jaffer (9)
2. Sanath Jayasuriya (6)*
3. Arthur Shrewsbury (11)**
4. Ramnaresh Sarwan (7)
5. David Allen (8)
6. Anil Kumble (3)
7. Muttiah Muralitharan (4)
8. Alfred Lyttelton+ (10)
9. Erapalli Prasanna (5)
10. Makhaya Ntini (2)
11. Glenn McGrath (1)

*actually Prasanna, but he's taken and Sanath was next.

** Technically Shresbury, being one of a handful of players to bowl as the 11th bowler in a Test but not to take a wicket, is the joint highest leading wicket taker. Ajay Ratra, Herchelle Gibbs and Graham Yallop are the others. I've selected Shrewsbury as he's a batsman who only bowling in first-class cricket were his two Test overs at 9th change, and as such can be considered a specialist in the position.

 

[honestbharani]

What if you just go by the top 5 run scorers by batting position and top 5 wicket takers per batting position and throw in a keeper at 6?

 

[Prince EWS]

** Technically Shresbury, being one of a handful of players to bowl as the 11th bowler in a Test but not to take a wicket, is the joint highest leading wicket taker. Ajay Ratra, Herchelle Gibbs and Graham Yallop are the others. I've selected Shrewsbury as he's a batsman who only bowling in first-class cricket were his two Test overs at 9th change, and as such can be considered a specialist in the position.

Love this

 

[Red]

ODI team without Gilly, Dhoni, Sanga, De Villiers or de Kock.

Tendulkar
Watson
Ponting
Richards
Hussey
McCullum +
Kapil
Wasim
Garner
Donald
Murali

 

[Howe_zat]

Geographical Features XI

Graeme Wood
William Porter-field
Clem Hill
Maurice Leyland
Peter Forrest
Jim Parks
Peter Moor+
Stuart Broad
Jim Laker
Mark Wood
Jack Brooks