_00_deathscar
International Regular
Why wouldn’t you pick the guy averaging 70 at home?
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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread
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_00_deathscar
International Regular
India would do ok on batting, bowling would take a hit - but would still do very well at home.
South Africa probably the reverse - batting takes a hit, bowling would do ok.
CricketFan90s
State Vice-Captain
CricketFan90s
State Vice-Captain
It’s better to have an Asia vs Rest of the World than this Island and Continent debate ?
RSA LO Xi: Amla
De Kock
B Richards
G Pollock
AB
Rice
Klusenar
Procter
S Pollock
V D Bijl
Tahir
Some issues at the top. I really can't think of a number 3. De Kock is iffy, and Amla is just fine in this context. But absolutely stupid depth in both batting and bowling. Klusener as a 6th bowler is OPed. The double punch of G Pollock/AB is something special, and having bats down to number 9/10 who can throw some wood is great. Crazy scoring rate from 4 down.
De Kock
B Richards
G Pollock
AB
Rice
Klusenar
Procter
S Pollock
V D Bijl
Tahir
Some issues at the top. I really can't think of a number 3. De Kock is iffy, and Amla is just fine in this context. But absolutely stupid depth in both batting and bowling. Klusener as a 6th bowler is OPed. The double punch of G Pollock/AB is something special, and having bats down to number 9/10 who can throw some wood is great. Crazy scoring rate from 4 down.
CricketFan90s
State Vice-Captain
Asia Test XI
1) Saeed Anwar
2) Sunil Gavaskar
3) Rahul Dravid
4) Sachin Tendulkar
5) Javed Miandad
6) Kumar Sangakkara+
7) Shakib Al Hasan
8) Imran Khan*
9) Wasim Akram
10) Waqar Younis
11) Muralitharan
Rest of the World XI
1) Jack Hobbs
2) Len Hutton
3) Don Bradman
4) Brian Lara
5) Steve Waugh*
6) Gary Sobers
7) Adam Gilchrist+
8) Richard Hadlee
9) Malcolm Marshall
10) Shane Warne
11) Glenn McGrath
1) Saeed Anwar
2) Sunil Gavaskar
3) Rahul Dravid
4) Sachin Tendulkar
5) Javed Miandad
6) Kumar Sangakkara+
7) Shakib Al Hasan
8) Imran Khan*
9) Wasim Akram
10) Waqar Younis
11) Muralitharan
Rest of the World XI
1) Jack Hobbs
2) Len Hutton
3) Don Bradman
4) Brian Lara
5) Steve Waugh*
6) Gary Sobers
7) Adam Gilchrist+
8) Richard Hadlee
9) Malcolm Marshall
10) Shane Warne
11) Glenn McGrath
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CricketFan90s
State Vice-Captain
Why do you think Steve Waugh cannot make it ?
The Sean
Cricketer Of The Year
Because he's not even the next Australian I'd pick for that line-up, let alone giving him a gig over Viv Richards or Wally Hammond.
I know he was a specialist at number 5 so that might be what you're going for, but as great as he was - and he was a great player - he doesn't make that team.
CricketFan90s
State Vice-Captain
He was the perfect No 5 and a good lower order player. Hammond and Viv are very good No 3 option. Waugh I believe is a better Captain and fielder too.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Yeah he's not even really a guarantee in the Aus lineup. Most wouldn't pick him in that over Bradman/Ponting/Chappell/Border.
Even if you want to go for someone who batted in the lower middle order a lot and was a good captain, Border was better.
Slifer
International Captain
Debateable. Especially the fielding part.
CricketFan90s
State Vice-Captain
Border struggled a bit against quality bowling in Australia. Steve Waugh was a better batsmen than Border against best bowling attacks and also has experience of facing Murali. He is a bit underrated due to some tough decisions he made as captain which was not agreed by some of the players like Warne.
CricketFan90s
State Vice-Captain
The Problem in Cricket World is that some people are underrated and some are overrated to ensure that the Cricket business doesn't go down. Steve Waugh is a bit underated but definitely better than Allan Border.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
What?
CricketFan90s
State Vice-Captain
Cricket is a business too do you agree or not ?What?
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
That's not what you said.
People having different opinions isn't a grand conspiracy - it's just the nature of subjective discussions. There's no financial gain to be made out of players being over- or under-rated. I'm not on the ICC payroll just because I disagree with you.
The Sean
Cricketer Of The Year
That's exactly what someone on the ICC payroll would say...
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
This is a bit like when my political party gets accused of being funded by Gina Rinehart or the Koch brothers. We wish! Please give us Koch money.
I'd love to take ICC money to manipulate CW opinions on Steve Waugh, but alas it's not been forthcoming.
CricketFan90s
State Vice-Captain
Players overate and underrate other players too based on their bias, Friendships or Political gains. Its not a conspiracy its to point out the error in the Human Judgement.