The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread (white ball edition)

[DriveClub]

Symonds

 

[h_hurricane]

You have left out the Bradman, PEWS. I don't think he has retired yet.

Right now he is the non playing coach. Wouldn't mind taking him into the team though. Versatile, insightful and full of cricketing acumen.

 

[DriveClub]

Gotta make room for PEWS, the ruthless run accumulating machine. Social also likely to buy his way into the XI through his nefarious connections in the middle east.

Presume Burgey is the finger spinner?

Burgey definitely the finger spinner. He's a wily character, got a lot of tricks up his sleeve

 

[h_hurricane]

Presume Burgey is the finger spinner?

Nailed it.

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Terribly modern team, no respect for the legends.


At least include the bloke who actually played for Australia and at an U19 World Cup

 

[h_hurricane]

Terribly modern team, no respect for the legends.


At least include the bloke who actually played for Australia and at an U19 World Cup

I am sure Burgey and AT (and possibly a few others) are from the class of 1960s.

 

[honestbharani]

Vic is also one of the best posters from Oz here. So yeah, definitely need him in there. PEWS out coz its a team of people, I reckon.

And Dan to open the batting and be their Murali Vijay. And Jono at 3 as their Bradman.

 

[Migara]

1st XI

Jayasuriya (5)
Tendulkar (6)
Abbas
Richards (7)
Kohli
De Villiers
Dhoni (c, wk)
Hadlee (1)
Wasim (2)
Murali (4)
Garner (3)

2nd XI

Gilchrist (wk)
R. Sharma (7)
Lara
Ponting (c)
D. Jones
Bevan (6)
Klusener (5)
Pollock (3)
Ambrose (2)
Saqlain (4)
McGrath (1)

3rd XI

Hayden
Watson (6)
Ganguly (c) (7)
Crowe
Kallis (5)
Hussey
de Koch (wk)
Hogg / Kumble (4)
Lee (3)
Starc (2)
Waqar (1)

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Windies team of the 2000s:

1. Gayle
2. Chanderpaul
3. Sarwan
4. Lara
5. Marlon Samuels
6. DJ Bravo
7. D. Ramdin
8. Mervyn Dillon
9. Reon King
10. Curtly Ambrose
11. Fidel Edwards

Standbys: Jerome Taylor, Cameron Cuffy, Ridley Jacobs, Carl Hooper.

 

[Red]

This whole Symonds thing has been pretty tiresome tbh. I'm more interested in the discussion re. the value of fielding ability in general but no one can seem to separate the topic from Symonds himself in their minds.

I've been arguing (sort of) pro-Symonds ITT not so much because I really think he should be in an ATG team, but more so in response to some posting from others that has ben severely underrating him as a player

How much discussion here has happened on merit of picking a fringe Indian player in ATG XI like Rohit or Kapil vs. how much for Symonds? It's become a meme now.

Every single person here says that he is bored of talking about Symonds but continues talking about Symonds.

 

[Red]

Funny you should ask, as it wasn't too long ago where multiple threads were inundated with pro-Kapil spamming in almost that exact context IIRC that made this whole Symonds thing look tame by comparison

And from what I've seen it seems like an unfair anti-Symonds sentiment that is fuelling this discussion just as much, if not more than pro-Symonds bias

For the most part I've included both Kapil and Symonds in my ATG world XI.

Gilchrist
Tendulkar
Richards
Kohli
DeVilliers
Symonds
Kapil
Wasim
Garner
Murali
McGrath

 

[Red]

An ATG Aussie CW XI

Jimmy101
Mr_Mister
Spark(c)
Aussie Tragic
Red Hill
Stephen
TJB
Coronis
StarFighter
The Big Bambino
Burgey

Jimmy and MM provide the much needed calming assurance at the top. Spark controls the proceedings in the middle order with an explosive lineup to follow. Stephen is a master of tricky chases with TJB providing great support. Burgey leads the bowling pack with a great skill to hunt down opposition's best batsman when it matters the most.

One could create a second ATG XI as well but this will be difficult to beat for me.

Can I please bat at #4?

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Windies team of the 2010s:

1.Gayle
2. Lewis
3. Hope
4. Samuels
5. Hetmyer
6. Pooran
7. Pollard
8. Holder
9. Roach
10. Rampaul
11. Narine

 

[stephen]

Windies team of the 2000s:

1. Gayle
2. Chanderpaul
3. Sarwan
4. Lara
5. Marlon Samuels
6. DJ Bravo
7. D. Ramdin
8. Mervyn Dillon
9. Reon King
10. Curtly Ambrose
11. Fidel Edwards

Standbys: Jerome Taylor, Cameron Cuffy, Ridley Jacobs, Carl Hooper.

I think it's a stretch to have Ambrose there. Not because he wasn't good enough, rather because he played so little. Jerome Taylor should replace him.

 

[jimmy101]

Or I suppose if Ambrose is to be selected in a 2000's side, Walsh should be too, as he kicked on for a little bit longer.

 

[stephen]

90s ODI XI:

Tendulkar
Jayasuriya (5)
Lara
De Silva
S Waugh (6)
Bevan
Stewart+
Warne (4)
Akram (3)
Ambrose (2)
Donald (1)

Went with Jayasuriya over Waugh for his bowling. Ditto Waugh over Ranatunga. The unluckiest bloke was Abbas.

 

[stephen]

Klusener was also unlucky to miss out but he really shouldn't bat above 7 and keepers opening wasn't really a thing footer most of the 90s.

 

[jimmy101]

Deano a little bit unlucky not to make it, unless of course you regard him to be an 80's player (which tbh is the right call). Junior could just as easily bat at 5 in place of Tugga.

Does Abbas happen to be a typo? Surely you aren't talking about Zaheer Abbas, are you?

Kaluwitharana has a decent claim to fill the 'keepers role imo.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Or I suppose if Ambrose is to be selected in a 2000's side, Walsh should be too, as he kicked on for a little bit longer.

I'd take 2000s Ambrose over 2000s Walsh

 

[jimmy101]

I'd take 2000s Ambrose over 2000s Walsh

No disputes here. Just gotta remember that big Curtly only played for roughly 6 months during the entire decade.