Thats so true that it sickens me....but i think those sort of ppl should just be ignored! They really irritate me to say the least...its fine to have opinions when u know a lot about cricket or at least the background of the situation at hand....but some of these'idiots' dont and just want cause a riot! I just hope these ppl dont influence any decisions made on friday/saturday!
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'Tendulkar should consider quitting' by Ian chappel
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adharcric
International Coach
Considering those fans care infinitely more about their idols than they do about the sport of cricket, it's highly unlikely they'll ever understand that. Well, as long as the Indian media is around they certainly won't.
Craig
World Traveller
Look at the end of the day, if Sachin still feels motivated and is still enjoying his cricket when he started out then let him play on and feels he has something to offer on and off the field, but if his mind is on other intrests (non cricket related) in India and abroad then perhaps it is time to consider his future in the game, but whatever he does I hope he makes the right choice.
I cbf getting into a massive debate so I'll just post what I think and I would like to see him go and and play for the good for team and the love of cricket, because he IMO has nothing to prove to anybody in the game, and most of all himself.
I cbf getting into a massive debate so I'll just post what I think and I would like to see him go and and play for the good for team and the love of cricket, because he IMO has nothing to prove to anybody in the game, and most of all himself.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
But he did look better in his most recent series than at any time since 2002...
social
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Aside from the match where he played possibly the worst innings of his test career
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/rsavind/content/current/story/275387.html
Really just goes to show how much he's deteriorated if this series was his best since 2002
Here's a good read for those who missed...
http://www.espnstar.com/studio/studio_coldetail_5278262.html
http://www.espnstar.com/studio/studio_coldetail_5278262.html
social
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Unfortunately, the facts are that he didnt look particularly good all series and this innings was the nadir of a pretty average performance by him (and, to be fair, the rest of the Indian batsmen).
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Hang on Social, Dravid was equally as bad, and at least he could move.
Sachin didn't play well, but the fact is a) he had suffered a minor niggle injury and b) he was given out incorrectly anyway.
They both played horribly in that innings, but if you look at each test, Sachin looked good in the 1st innings, but just wasn't able to go on with it because he either received a jaffer (1st test), played a horrible horrible shot (2nd test) or simply was outdone by good spin bowling (3rd test). Only Ganguly scored more runs in that series, but he definitely didn't 'look better'. Dravid and Laxman ranged from poor to nothing special, and let's not even talk about Sehwag.
Sachin didn't play well, but the fact is a) he had suffered a minor niggle injury and b) he was given out incorrectly anyway.
They both played horribly in that innings, but if you look at each test, Sachin looked good in the 1st innings, but just wasn't able to go on with it because he either received a jaffer (1st test), played a horrible horrible shot (2nd test) or simply was outdone by good spin bowling (3rd test). Only Ganguly scored more runs in that series, but he definitely didn't 'look better'. Dravid and Laxman ranged from poor to nothing special, and let's not even talk about Sehwag.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
yeah, but DRavid has been performing well before that.........
I agree that Sachin looked good in that series but that is another problem about his batting these days. In his prime, when he "looked" in good form, it was almost impossible to get him out. That is what set him apart from Lara, the ability to knuckle down and make the most of his good form. He wouldn't play more than the odd aerial shot and whatever risks he took were always very well calculated. But now, he is making mistakes and getting out even when he "looks" in good form. That is more worrying than anything else, for me.
If he was getting out within 10 or so and wasn't set, I wouldn't be THAT worried. But the problem is he is looking better than he has been for a while and he is still not able to convert it to anything substantial.
PS: Dravid had a finger injury during that series too.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
All true, but I thought we've come to accept that Sachin isn't as good as he used to be, that doesn't have much to do with the fact that he justified his test spot ahead of other batsman in the SA series.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
That's absolute rubbish, he looked very good for much of the series, against some often outstanding seam bowling. A very, very talented batting-line-up battled hard but in the end were just outdone by a superb seam-attack on some often helpful surfaces.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
yes, Jono, but sometimes you have to weigh out what a 34 year old and obviously declining Sachin gives you against a 23 year old and improving Badrinath.... Not saying he should be dropped or anything, but just suggesting that you cannot retain him simply because he is averaging a couple of runs more than his competitor.
This is not just about Sachin, BTW. This is applicable to any great player on the decline, AFAIC.
I'm not trying to start a Lara vs. Tendulkar debate, but it irked me how Chappell talks as if Lara never had a drop in form either. I mean that mirror analogy was a bit harsh on Tendulkar when, according to Wikipedia, Lara had two severe drops in form.
I'm not saying which one is better than the other, both have had poor patches. But it just seemed harsh to me that he should chastise Tendulkar and have completely different standards when judging Lara.
Taking out the series against Australia in 1999 when Lara was miraculous (probably the best batting I have ever seen), he really didn't do a whole lot before or after it.
I'm not saying which one is better than the other, both have had poor patches. But it just seemed harsh to me that he should chastise Tendulkar and have completely different standards when judging Lara.
completely right...thats what i was trying to say in the opening post!
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Anyone who seriously thinks Lara has never had drops in form needs 2nd lesson to be dedicated to "cricket".
social
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Thought we were talking about India in SA
Two thoroughly out of form greats, a couple of has-beens and a plethora of never-will-bes was hardly the most daunting line-up
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Well, I didn't read the article by Ian Chappell, only listened to him on TV and what he said did make sense.
He was saying that Lara, for better or worse, hasn't changed the way he batted and was still batting in a way that would maximize the chances of his teams' success. Also, he said that Windies perhaps won't have as many players with potential to try out as India might. Now, I don't completely agree with the first point, because if Sachin is not capable of playing quick scoring knocks then he must only do the next best thing, and try and stay put and make as much as he can and help the team out that way, but all of that boils down to team composition and situations, I guess.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
I am pretty sure they have hit their primes and gone back already, Richard. And sadly, I think it is the truth, although I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to be proved wrong on this one.
Laxman basically seems to have lost his love for the game with his repeated exclusions from the WCs and his being the first on the chopping block whenever another batsman does well and is going to break into the test side. He just looks like he is disillusioned with the game itself, at the moment.
Ganguly, I am not sure who he is playing for, esp. if rumours about how he was asked to accelerate his scoring rate a bit and he didn't do so on purpose, are true. Sachin, we all want to see Sachin at least play at 75% of his normal self, but we will have to wait and see if that happens. And Dravid, I am not sure how much will be left in his tank after recent events. It won't surprise me if he even quits, considering all that he has gone through. Of the four, I would only back Sachin to be anywhere near as good as he used to be.