Symonds sent home

[Goughy]

And every international cricket follower or journalist with well respected opinions, plus first-hand accounts knew that Kambli was un-done by his attitude.

I dont get this post. The short ball was a massive reason why Kambli stalled.

His attitude was another factor that contributed, but his technical deficiencies were a massive issue.

You seem to suggest they were not.

 

[Precambrian]

He was 22 when he played his last test match, surely you not an age you stop developing skills!
And if lack of ability to play short ball was an issue a certain Saurav Ganguly shouldn't be anywhere in the vicinity of the team! Nor should be many other stalwarts except perhaps Sachin, and to some extent Dravid.

 

[Perm]

I dont get this post. The short ball was a massive reason why Kambli stalled.

His attitude was another factor that contributed, but his technical deficiencies were a massive issue.

You seem to suggest they were not.

Kambli may have had technical issues in regards to short-pitched bowling, but his poor attitude and off-field antics were one of the major reasons his batting suffered, not just at Test level.

 

[four_or_six]

I'm surprised everyone's going 'he only missed a meeting' and saying the punishment is too harsh. I mean, if I'd walked out of work missing a meeting to go watch a game of cricket all day, I'd expect to be sacked tbh. And unfortunately I'm neither being paid hundreds of thousands of pounds, or at the top of my career.

 

[PhoenixFire]

I'm surprised everyone's going 'he only missed a meeting' and saying the punishment is too harsh. I mean, if I'd walked out of work missing a meeting to go watch a game of cricket all day, I'd expect to be sacked tbh. And unfortunately I'm neither being paid hundreds of thousands of pounds, or at the top of my career.

Good point that, CA can't allow people to miss meetings, as the whole team spirit and teamworking ethic would end up being non-existent.

 

[SJS]

Good point that, CA can't allow people to miss meetings, as the whole team spirit and teamworking ethic would end up being non-existent.

And its not as if he missed it by being a few minutes - even an hour - late. The meeting* was at 9 AM and he came back from fishing at 5 PM !!

People should take off their sentiment-tinted glasses and try to understand the meaning of the terms discipline and responsibility.

For those who were a bit upset when Sehwag was sent into a year long hibernation when he was doing not so bad at least in Tests, let me tell you that the reason was that the coach had organised a special nets to try and resolve some of his batting problems. The bowlers turned up as did coach Greg Chappell but the only batsman who was to bat, was missing. He did not think the coach even deserved the courtesy of a phone call. Sehwag missed it for no reason whatsoever.

He was sacked !!

PS : * The meeting in question was not a routine meeting. It had been listed as a 'compulsory meeting' and all players knew they HAD to attend and not attending was not an option.

 

[SJS]

Symonds' career in jeopardy

Symonds has a checkered disciplinary record in the national team and Cricket Australia operations manager Michael Brown said he was been warned after Friday's incident that his playing contract would be torn up if he misbehaved again.

Symonds' worst indiscretion occurred in 2005 when, after an all-night drinking binge, he reported still intoxicated for a limited overs international against Bangladesh in Cardiff. He narrowly avoided being sent home from Australia's Ashes tour of England.

Clarke played a part in saving Symonds' career after that incident but said Saturday, in a press conference following Australia's easy win in the series opener, that the all-rounder must win back the respect of his teammates and improve his attitude if he is to have an international future.

After being suspended for the series, Symonds flew to Brisbane, arriving in casual dress rather than team uniform, and was quickly ushered away from waiting media by airport security.

Coach Tim Nielsen said the failure to attend Friday's team meeting was the last straw after a number of recent incidents which raised doubts about Symonds' commitment to the Australian team.

"He wasn't organized enough to understand his commitments that day," Nielsen said.

"That to me raises concerns about how and what sort of space he is in, in his own mind and that's the discussion we had with him."

Clarke, Nielsen and Australia captain Ricky Ponting agreed in a telephone conference call that Symonds should be sent away from the team.

Brown said Cricket Australia would work with Symonds' state cricket authority, his manager and family members in an attempt to revive his career.​

SOURCE

 

[Precambrian]

And he's adopted this i don't care attitude towards national colors despite being under par in one day cricket this year. An average of 30 in 13 games.

 

[SJS]

Lest we forget, this is what he did last time - in the words of Ricki Ponting in his book :-

"Those warm-ups started with some gentle leg swings, but after four or five swings in the batting group, Symonds moved away from us and headed for the other set of players," Ponting writes.

"He based himself on the edge of that group and leaned against a wheelie bin that was on the edge of the field. As he did so he fell over."

"When Gilchrist and I got to Symonds I did not beat around the bush," Ponting writes. "His eyes looked puffy and I could smell alcohol on his breath. 'Were you out late last night having a drink?' I said.

"'Yes,' he replied. 'What time did you get back?' I responded. 'About 1.30, I think.'

"Given the state he was in eight hours after that, I found his claim hard to believe. My blood was beginning to boil. I did not shout, but let Symonds know exactly what I thought about his behaviour."

Ponting told Symonds he would not be in the team to play Bangladesh.

"'Right,' was his response," writes Ponting. "But he said it in such a casual 'see-if-I-care' way that it wound me up even more. 'Don't encourage me,' I said.

"I was furious at a player being so disrespectful to himself, his teammates, his opponents and his country by turning up to play a game in that state, and I blurted out, 'He can go home then!' to Gilchrist before heading off to speak to John Buchanan."

Buchanan's suspicions had been raised when Symonds beat him to breakfast, wearing the same clothes as the night before.

But rather than apologise to the coach at training, Symonds told him: "I've played when I've been like this before.​

 

[Precambrian]

Blame BCCI. IPL corrupted poor Andrew with all the dollars that his brain got over'charged'. Can't distinguish which is his national team now. Allegedly conspiracy to reduce Australian firepower in coming Border Gavaskar trophy. Try was made last summer at Sydney, where again poor Andrew was at the receiving end of racial calls from demon Harby, and even though Australia won the match thanks to Benson and edges going unnoticed, they lost the subsequent one at Perth, and drew at Adelaide. There have also been reports that the money binning exercise called IPL is taking away the focus and energy of many a young Australian player, the latest among those being Shane Watson, who, like the ICC, miraculously found a 2 month injury-less window to star in the IPL, and after playing for Australia in some inconsequential onedayers in West Indies, finds himself back at the hospital.

 

[SJS]

Blame BCCI. IPL corrupted poor Andrew with all the dollars that his brain got over'charged'. Can't distinguish which is his national team now. Allegedly conspiracy to reduce Australian firepower in coming Border Gavaskar trophy. Try was made last summer at Sydney, where again poor Andrew was at the receiving end of racial calls from demon Harby, and even though Australia won the match thanks to Benson and edges going unnoticed, they lost the subsequent one at Perth, and drew at Adelaide. There have also been reports that the money binning exercise called IPL is taking away the focus and energy of many a young Australian player, the latest among those being Shane Watson, who, like the ICC, miraculously found a 2 month injury-less window to star in the IPL, and after playing for Australia in some inconsequential onedayers in West Indies, finds himself back at the hospital.

 

[Sanz]

Anyway, Symonds is paid to play cricket and, in that regard, he is one of the best in the world - END OF STORY

He is the best so it is okay to break the team discipline. Welcome to the hypocritical world order of Social.

 

[Ahmed_Tariq]

Blame BCCI. IPL corrupted poor Andrew with all the dollars that his brain got over'charged'. Can't distinguish which is his national team now. Allegedly conspiracy to reduce Australian firepower in coming Border Gavaskar trophy. Try was made last summer at Sydney, where again poor Andrew was at the receiving end of racial calls from demon Harby, and even though Australia won the match thanks to Benson and edges going unnoticed, they lost the subsequent one at Perth, and drew at Adelaide. There have also been reports that the money binning exercise called IPL is taking away the focus and energy of many a young Australian player, the latest among those being Shane Watson, who, like the ICC, miraculously found a 2 month injury-less window to star in the IPL, and after playing for Australia in some inconsequential onedayers in West Indies, finds himself back at the hospital.

 

[Sanz]

Get it through your head, he missed a meeting!!!!!

And you should also get into your head, being the senior player of the team, he was supposed to be attend a mandatory team meeting.

Not to forget the history.

BTW, if it were Harby, he'd have racially abused a fishing mate, punched the captain and then had his mummy appear on television telling the world what a good boy he is

 

[PhoenixFire]

How many of the guys who have been "presenting themselves" have dug Oz out of as many holes as Symonds has?

Haha, worst argument. How good he is has absolutely jack-**** to do with how he behaved and that's the end of it. Are you saying that had it been a less talented player, it would have been a less acceptable activity to partake in?

 

[social]

Haha, worst argument. How good he is has absolutely jack-**** to do with how he behaved and that's the end of it. Are you saying that had it been a less talented player, it would have been a less acceptable activity to partake in?

So he misses a meeting, fine him

Has his behaviour affected his performances - nope

Has it affected his teams' performances - nope

The only thing this decision has achieved is to weaken the Australian team

Friggin' brilliant boys

 

[PhoenixFire]

So he misses a meeting, fine him

Has his behaviour affected his performances - nope

Has it affected his teams' performances - nope

The only thing this decision has achieved is to weaken the Australian team

Friggin' brilliant boys

How would you know that it hasn't. Over a period of time, if players miss team meetings because they'd rather go fishing, then that will effect on the the teams performances, as well as moral (which go hand-in-hand).

Anyway, are you suggesting that the coaching staff think along the lines of: 'Player X has played well recently, let's allow him to miss the next team meeting.'?

 

[social]

How would you know that it hasn't. Over a period of time, if players miss team meetings because they'd rather go fishing, then that will effect on the the teams performances, as well as moral (which go hand-in-hand).

Anyway, are you suggesting that the coaching staff think along the lines of: 'Player X has played well recently, let's allow him to miss the next team meeting.'?

News flash - life's not fair

They definitely cut top players much more slack

How many games would a lesser player have played if they behaved like Warne, Akhtar, Botham etc ad nauseam

Ponting is captain of Australia and he whas done things every bit as bad as Symonds and some would argue far worse

BTW, youre implying that Symonds purposefully missed a compulsory meeting.

Unfortunately, he didnt think it was and so didnt show up

 

[PhoenixFire]

News flash - life's not fair

They definitely cut top players much more slack

How many games would a lesser player have played if they behaved like Warne, Akhtar, Botham etc ad nauseam

That may be the case, but just because it happens on regular occasions doesn't mean it is right, like you are suggesting.

Ponting is captain of Australia and he whas done things every bit as bad as Symonds and some would argue far worse

Ponting didn't do those sort of things whilst he was the captain. He was punished and he redeemed himself and he hasn't looke back. Symonds has been warned before, and keeps pushing the limits as to how much CA will tolerate him.

 

[Sanz]

What??? You seriously think CA has been lenient with Symonds think again, they have always taken the apt decision whenever any player has broken discipline including Symonds.
Secondly don't give me this bull**** that only Australian players say things on-field, that might have been true a decade ago but in the present times no team backs away from having a bit of verbal-volley whenever they get a chance, so stop just singling out Australia.
Btw all this talk that Clarke is trying to shown everyone that he is the next leader by taking such a bold stand against Symonds, i think Clarke would be the last person to be this harsh on Symonds, considering the fact how many times Clarke has saved Symonds' arse in the past, and let's be honest Symonds had this coming, the other players aren't stupid to be there for the team or board the team-bus on time, just because Symonds is a senior and important player in the Aussie set-up, doesn't make him any more special than any other player, and that would have got through to him now (hopefully).

Blah blh blah..Blind supporters like yourself do not make things any better for others. Go on..I am really paying attention to anyone who is talking like you..