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[bugssy]

yer i agree

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[bugssy]

Well its called World Club Cricket for a reason. Its not the Anglo-Saxon League. Personally reckon the more International sides the better. But your better off allowing the managers a chance to choice where they want to manage. Alteast the region if a couple want the same teams. Rather then selecting the clubs.

Also if you re-start you are probably better of starting with the bare minimum and a 6-team format, like Greg mentioned. If you went down the 8-10 team route all your basically doing is cutting back from the old format. Your better off having say 6 extremely keen managers then half really keen and half so, so.

are you able to send me all the files please! bugsssyatoptusnetdotcomdotau

 

[chaminda_00]

Was under the impression Geg was putting together a proper format. Better off just waiting until someone comes up with a detail plan/proposal rather then just do things as you go.

 

[bugssy]

oh ok so greg is doing it now.......i put my hand up and i just get blown or brushed away. ok wait for greg then ................................ i guess!!!!!!!!!



well greg i am happy to help if you want to take charge i didnt think greg wanted to take total control that was all.........maybe i should chat to greg on msn .

 

[chaminda_00]

Don't really care personally who runs it, as long as they run it well. But I think it would be better if someone does want to run. They sit down and make a proper format known and then the managers can decide which way they want to go. No point trying to rush it and then having all these holes missing after a couple rounds into it. Either it gets run properly or not at all.

 

[NZTailender]

Yeah, AWTA. My enthusiasm for running it isn't exactly high. Just don't want to see it die.

 

[Mister Wright]

This is a chance for the game to re-juvinated. IMO WCC was at it's best when I first joined the league. There were pools of six and the format was simple. When we tried to make it too complicated to accomadate growing intrest that's when it started going downhill. It needs to be kept simple.

As much as I love my current players, I think the new squads need to have real players in it, that's what attracted me in the first place. Whoever the teams are have those players in the squad and then have trading or whatever, and then when the new season comes along have most of the new players as real players. There's new players popping up everywhere so it shouldn't be too hard.

 

[chaminda_00]

With all new squads, there would be too much difference between sides from different countries interms of stats. Even just Australia and England. The game would get a tad boring if another a couple sides were dominating. But keeping the current pool of players, you can start sooner and it would be easier to have an even competition. You can scale the stats of some players to make it more realistic though which wouldn't be hard. Even in Australia the gap between NSW and SA would be quite significant.

 

[bugssy]

if you did do current squads the gap between say nsw and sa wouldnt be so bad with a trade or a period for negotiating players between managers.

i really would love to take control and get it up and going, and i do like the idea of getting back to the basics with a simple game plan.

current squads with current players would be great to get back to for the start, and we have seen how quick new players come in anyway.

i guess we need to see how much interest there is out there, and would like to talk to kyle and greg at some stage regarding wcc and the new life we can give it!

 

[chaminda_00]

One option thought could be an AFLTA option where managers do their own research and bid for current FC cricketers. Just have an open draft and the managers find their own FC cricketers to put a side together. That why you have real players, but you don't have unbalanced sides like you would if you just gave people current FC sides. The gap between most FC sides is alot bigger then you realise Bugs, especially interms of stats.

 

[bugssy]

One option thought could be an AFLTA option where managers do their own research and bid for current FC cricketers. Just have an open draft and the managers find their own FC cricketers to put a side together. That why you have real players, but you don't have unbalanced sides like you would if you just gave people current FC sides. The gap between most FC sides is alot bigger then you realise Bugs, especially interms of stats.

yer that could work, i am notsaying it wont be hard to do but am willing to do it to keep it going!

 

[Matteh]

Open draft would be the best option if you want to create balanced sides.

 

[bugssy]

Open draft would be the best option if you want to create balanced sides.

yer agree or how you would do it wopuld be managers pick there side so for example

bugsy nsw

i would then get to keep 5 players and the rest go into the pool and we do a draft style picking system so all teams get balanced out nicely

so nsw would keep

b lee
s clarke
m clarke
p jaques
s macgil

all other players go into the player pool and then we pick up players at a time from all over to pick the remainder of the sides

depending on how much ineterest there is we would probably do 6 teams from all over the world. start small and start getting interest.

very happy to look after it all , obviously the data collection is the most time consuming and will need help with this but happy to accept if everyone else is.

 

[bugssy]

can also do email results and post or what ever is the easiest for the managers. start of with 6 teams

play one season, hopefully the interest gathers and we add another 6 teams etc etc then we could start the accademy again as 2nd xi has never really taken off. but you could work the accademy sides to have a link to a top class side like football does but this part is along way away but just all thoughts in the making.

 

[Matteh]

I'd say put the emphasis on email/website rather than forum.

 

[Simon]

Ive had a quick chat to Greg and think you guys are probably on the right track, what I have suggested is that keep teams to a minimum (something between 8-16), let people choose their side and revert to original squads while allowing managers to pick a couple of existing rookies that are already in that side. E.G with Guyana picking Jenkins.

I'd be willing to help out doing research, stat updating etc... but want to stay away from simming and generally being the "top dog" I think I functioned best in this game doing things in the back ground. WCC has the potential to return to the glory days if things are kept simple and a few people really commit to it working.

 

[chaminda_00]

I was thinking about this earlier today and we could have a format of say six main sides. I think the smaller you start the better. Plus have 8 academy sides from the main Test sides (Aus, Eng, India, SA, NZ, WI, SL and Pak) made up of the best players that don't make the main sides. That way you have 14 sides to manage, not too much, not too little.

The managers get choosen pick which sides they want to manage and selected the top 5-7 players from those current squads. One players as suggested from rookie players from your old sides. Then the rest are from an open draft where guys research their own players. That way you can keep the nuceaus of the real squads and add in some top players from elsewhere that would usually miss out.

Start off with just FC to make it easier for managers to research players and make the first season short. Squads of say 14 to keep it simple.

Like Simon I'm happy to help behind the scenes but I don't have the time to be 'top dog'

Would something along those lines work?

 

[bugssy]

i think fc and one day is not too much of a problem, however happy to do just fc sto start of with. i think for the first season you need to have just the 6 or 8 teams. i feel accademy would be needed in season 2 obviously depending on how much interest you get from people looking to become managers. i am happy to be the main source if i have a little help underneath which from the sounds of it i will.

 

[new_age_ar]

Would be disappointing if there was no academy or whatever if you guys bring it back. I doubt I would be able to get a spot in the first lot of managers. So it would be disappointing if lesser experienced managers had no sides at all to manage. How are we meant to show we are keen and stay interested in the game if we have no side to manage. Reckon you should start off small, but you need an academy type thing for new and less experienced managers. Your not going to attract new managers and keep them interested without one. Which seems to one of biggest problems of late, no new managers signing up and most don't hang around as the comps they are placed in weren't run well.

 

[bugssy]

if there wa s apremier league and accademy the accademy would probably only need to be 6 teams also!