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Stokes Arrested

Gnske

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
We also shouldn't forget Stoke's pathetic attempt to mock Katie Price's special needs child last year when watching that video interaction with the two gay gentlemen.

While there was no audio, it was fairly clear to me that he was likely taking the piss out of them. Not only the fact he seemed the mimic & mock their movements at one point, he also is seen dismissively flicking a cigarette butt at them, which he claims he couldn't remember. Also if you watch the body language of all of them in that part of the clip, you could tell those 2 gay chaps were a little apprehensive of him. That was my read of it anyway.
I dunno, I saw it differently. Having rewatched it, it appears he just drops the cigarette near the beginning of the video then the chat looks normal apart from when Hales tries to straighten Stokes out and it looks like he's trying to explain Ben to the pair.

The video of him in the cop car afterwards admittedly adds a shade of grey to how I've interpreted it though.
 

Zinzan

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I dunno, I saw it differently. Having rewatched it, it appears he just drops the cigarette near the beginning of the video then the chat looks normal apart from when Hales tries to straighten Stokes out and it looks like he's trying to explain Ben to the pair.
Don't get me wrong, it's not obvious, but is subtle imo, when taking into account his past of mocking that celebrities kid.

You don't think 1:11 of this video he's deliberately trying to throw something at one of them? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMHxz9qEnh4
 

Gnske

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Don't get me wrong, it's not obvious, but is subtle imo, when taking into account his past of mocking that celebrities kid.

You don't think 1:11 of this video he's deliberately trying to throw something at one of them? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMHxz9qEnh4
Ah alright, I thought he had dropped it earlier in the video but he must have just given it a tap. Explains why Hales has to come in shortly after.
 

Jack1

International Debutant
Stokes is a disgrace. Let's be real here, he can't be trusted. He's testosterone fuelled with an aggressive temper. I'd never attack someone no matter what they said. Retaliation is one thing, but this goes well before anything like self defence. He could have murdered them and saw red.

I think Stokes's problem is he thinks he is a protector or something, or wants to show himself to be. He sees red whenever there's any chirp on the field, let alone off it. Never liked him at all.

He has bad history too. Especially considering the attempted bullying of Jordan's kid, who is "disabled'. Can't remember what's wrong with Jordan's child, but I do remember Stokes trying to metaphorically stick the knife in on him online. Stokes is just a nasty piece of work and there's tons of dirt against him. He deserves a prison sentence and not a particularly short one in my view considering his history, otherwise next time he really will kill someone as it's got to the point that he probably thinks he can get away with everything under the sun in his head (ECB haven't helped either by picking him recently). He possibly thinks he's above the law at this stage and needs brought back down to earth. That's my view anyway and the fact the bouncer is siding against him is very worrying for Stokes..as well as him getting called a liar. He looks in big trouble, it's written all over his face. The interview after the first test said a thousand words. Unless he and the ECB pay off the judge and jury I think Stokes is all but done. We shall see if I am right or wrong. Just a view. Not saying anything here is factual, just an opinion. Incase I potentially get in trouble for writing this lol, just saying.
 

Daemon

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Yeah still can't quite work out how he's dodged the bullet tbh.
Does it have something to do with the fact that he did it while the fight was still ongoing? Stokes punched a dude with his hands in the air backing off, Hales kicked him while he was on the ground tussling with his friend. Might be harder to get Hales charged with something.
 

Jack1

International Debutant
Don't get me wrong, it's not obvious, but is subtle imo, when taking into account his past of mocking that celebrities kid.

You don't think 1:11 of this video he's deliberately trying to throw something at one of them? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMHxz9qEnh4
You beat me too it, sorry. It's like a echo chamber in here after my post. My bad lol.

Yeah, Stokes is a nasty character it seems. Who knows what's going on his head. Deep down he could be a good guy and is going about things the wrong way. But what he has done is unacceptable and unforgivable over time. I think Stokes maybe has been overwhelmed by the drinking, boys culture of the England team and as well of being a celebrity cricketer. But it's still highly unacceptable and inexcusable to have behaved how he has in multiple instances.
 

Jack1

International Debutant
We also shouldn't forget Stoke's pathetic attempt to mock Katie Price's special needs child last year when watching that video interaction with the two gay gentlemen.

While there was no audio, it was fairly clear to me that he was likely taking the piss out of them. Not only the fact he seemed the mimic & mock their movements at one point, he also is seen dismissively flicking a cigarette butt at them, which he claims he couldn't remember. Also if you watch the body language of all of them in that part of the clip, you could tell those 2 gay chaps were a little apprehensive of him. That was my read of it anyway.
Stokes has bad history. I'm certainly siding against him here. I say this as an England fan that hates seeing England losing too.
 

Jack1

International Debutant
IMO Stoke's biggest concern is still that high birds-eyes footage which captures him continuing to chase the retreating men and continue to bash them when it was clear they were retreating and surrendering. He's lucky he didn't kill one of those blokes which can happen when a stronger bloke continuously bashes a weaker bloke while they are no longer putting up a fight.

Hate to sound cynical & I may be wrong, but I get the feeling not much will come of it since he's such an integral part of the English set-up. I fear it could be different if it was more of a fringe-international player.
I agree. Stokes has a screw loose. It's like he thinks life is a metaphorical dick measuring competition or something. Maybe he has a small one and is compensating. Who really knows. Just throwing that troll on Stokes out there for a laugh.
 

Moonsorrow999

U19 Debutant
I think there's definitely something there to pronounce a guilty verdict. He is definitely the most over-rated cricketer going at the moment. Occasionally does something decent with the bat, although rarely. Can't play spin for **** and his bowling is sometimes useful in English conditions. Hope he goes down but he won't because he's Ben Stokes.
 

Jack1

International Debutant
I think there's definitely something there to pronounce a guilty verdict. He is definitely the most over-rated cricketer going at the moment. Occasionally does something decent with the bat, although rarely. Can't play spin for **** and his bowling is sometimes useful in English conditions. Hope he goes down but he won't because he's Ben Stokes.
He's a good test all-rounder, but struggled badly with ball in ODI and t20 cricket. He isn't **** hot with the bat in t20 either.
 

S.Kennedy

International Vice-Captain
He's a good test all-rounder, but struggled badly with ball in ODI and t20 cricket. He isn't **** hot with the bat in t20 either.
Because he relies on reverse swing. You don't even get that in ODIs now as they play with two balls per innings.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
I think there's definitely something there to pronounce a guilty verdict. He is definitely the most over-rated cricketer going at the moment. Occasionally does something decent with the bat, although rarely. Can't play spin for **** and his bowling is sometimes useful in English conditions. Hope he goes down but he won't because he's Ben Stokes.
He won't "go down", but not because he is Ben Stokes. Whether or not he is convicted, however, is another matter.

He definitely should be, so far as I am concerned. His evidence strikes me as totally unconvincing. But I can see how jury might find there is "some" doubt as to his guilt, even if they think he is probably guilty.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Does it have something to do with the fact that he did it while the fight was still ongoing? Stokes punched a dude with his hands in the air backing off, Hales kicked him while he was on the ground tussling with his friend. Might be harder to get Hales charged with something.
It's not especially clear what the reasoning is. Regardless of the context, however, someone who is filmed booting someone in the head whilst they are lying on the ground is lucky to avoid being charged with a criminal offence. It's amazing really.
 

Jarquis

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Hopefully Stokes doesn't see this as cause to celebrate with half a dozen vodka red bulls....
 

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