Stick this in ya pipe

[C_C]

How sad are you, Gilly has stated that he has no problem with others not walking, its up to the player. He did not preach to anyone that they should walk. That has been stated many times but you keep insisting he has. Like I said before watch the cricket dont try second guess and put words into players mouths.

Well that makes Gilly a two-faced liar.
If he claims that he doesnt ask a player to walk but yet after a vociferous appeal, chirps back 'hey champ, the world's watching' (ie, implying that you should walk but you didnt) then he is being inconsistent.

while i can understand everyone's point of view here, i think that with both the kaif comment and the mcmillan incident, gilchrist has been pinged for sledging the batsman, which he has every right in the world to do, when he got a lucky decision. just because he walks doesn't mean he can't tell blokes that they were out when they are.

are you implying that his noble Lordship Adam Gillchrist doesnt engage in telling blokes they are out when they are not ?
oh no! heavens forbid!

Oh and heres an idea:
sledge all ya want.....but if you say 'i dont ask anyone to walk-its their choice' while sitting at some comfy sofa for an interview and 'the whole world's watching, champ!' on field, you are a LIAR.

 

[vic_orthdox]

are you implying that his noble Lordship Adam Gillchrist doesnt engage in telling blokes they are out when they are not ?
oh no! heavens forbid!

oh dear! i didn't say anythign of the type. all i was stating was that gilchrist has the same right to tell someone that they are out if he thinks so, just as any other test cricketer has the right to. by appealing to their conscience with quotes like "the whole world's watching", i would doubt (im not adam gilchrist, but i think this is a fair estimation) that he expects them to walk, he would simply aim to have kaif thinking about something else other than the next ball - the primary aim of banter in the first place.

 

[Scallywag]

Oh and heres an idea:
sledge all ya want.....but if you say 'i dont ask anyone to walk-its their choice' while sitting at some comfy sofa for an interview and 'the whole world's watching, champ!' on field, you are a LIAR.

He never did say "I dont ask anyone to walk-its their choice" so he's not a liar.

So unless you can prove he spoke those words its you thats the LIAR.

 

[anzac]

hells bells boys - he's entitled to say whatever he likes regardless of whether he walks or not.............and just because he may have a dig at someone re their being out (when the appeal has not been upheld) does not mean that he is preaching re his personal philosophy of walking.................

rather he is indulging in a subtle form of sledging / gamesmanship designed to put the batsman's head somewhere other than where it should be................nothing at all to do with if they 'should' walk or not.........that's just a red herring because he does walk...........

worked like a treat v McMillan if you ask me..............and the comment to Kaif is a classic IMO - regardless of if it had any effect or not.................

 

[C_C]

You say this:

He never did say "I dont ask anyone to walk-its their choice" so he's not a liar.

So unless you can prove he spoke those words its you thats the LIAR.

a few hours after this:

How sad are you, Gilly has stated that he has no problem with others not walking, its up to the player.

so Gilly has stated that he has no problem with others not walking but he never said 'i dont ask anyone to walk-its their choice'...... explain how you can manage to make those two diametrically opposite statements meet...

 

[Scallywag]

Its quite easy Gilly said he has no problem with others not walking he did not say I dont ask others to walk.

 

[C_C]

Its quite easy Gilly said he has no problem with others not walking he did not say I dont ask others to walk.

if you have no problems, you wouldnt be asking. Thats called INCONSISTENCY.
lets see, does this make a shred of sense to you ?:
" i have no problems with you but i want you to vacate my premises"

 

[Scallywag]

if you have no problems, you wouldnt be asking. Thats called INCONSISTENCY.
lets see, does this make a shred of sense to you ?:
" i have no problems with you but i want you to vacate my premises"

If he asked someone to walk I would agree with you but as he didnt I think you are completely wrong and have just tried to make it look like he is a hypocrite by being a hypocrite yourself.

 

[C_C]

If he asked someone to walk I would agree with you but as he didnt I think you are completely wrong and have just tried to make it look like he is a hypocrite by being a hypocrite yourself.

care to show me how i am being a hypocrite ?
he pressurised someone to walk on the field while claiming he doesnt have a prob. if others dont walk...... thats HYPOCRITICAL.

 

[Scallywag]

care to show me how i am being a hypocrite ?
he pressurised someone to walk on the field while claiming he doesnt have a prob. if others dont walk...... thats HYPOCRITICAL.

I dont need to you did it all by yourself.

 

[C_C]

I dont need to you did it all by yourself.

if i am being hypocritical and you are noticing that, KINDLY point out some examples.
Else you are just being the classic case of 'hot air'.

 

[Nate]

cmon boys and girls, cant we just all get along...

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Lara aint no angel either.
Like all walkers (Gilly included), he is a selective walker.

I've seen every Brian Lara Test match and ODI since the 1999 Australia tour of the West Indies (outside of Bangladesh and Sri Lanka) and I only recall having seen him stay at the crease once when replays showed him to be out. What I have see a lot of though, is edging to a fielder and walking as soon as the fielder confirmed to him that the ball was caught.

 

[Mr Casson]

cmon boys and girls, cant we just all get along...

Scallywag has a habit of turning conversations into a shambolic poo-throwing circus. So no, I don't think people in here will be getting along for some time...

 

[Scallywag]

Scallywag has a habit of turning conversations into a shambolic poo-throwing circus. So no, I don't think people in here will be getting along for some time...

And dont you love being involved in shambolic poo-throwing circuses.

 

[honestbharani]

I've seen every Brian Lara Test match and ODI since the 1999 Australia tour of the West Indies (outside of Bangladesh and Sri Lanka) and I only recall having seen him stay at the crease once when replays showed him to be out. What I have see a lot of though, is edging to a fielder and walking as soon as the fielder confirmed to him that the ball was caught.

I have seen Lara's every single innings (except a couple against Bangladesh) and he has always walked whenever he has nicked them. The incident that yo are referring to as 'the once' that he did not walk is probably that ODI Vs Sri Lanka when he went on to score a 100, but I believe even 2 or 3 of the commentators said there was doubts whether he had nicked it. Only Tony Greig was certain it was out and we all know his credentials, both as a player and as a commentator. So, I don't think he is a selective walker at all. He doesn't get all the press for it because I guess it is more amazing to see an Aussie walk than a West Indian. Plus, the whole point here is that Lara never gets angry or sledges people who stick around after nicking them, something that Gilly has done. I don't think there is anyway to justify Gilly's actions. Even if he was sledging, it is hypocritical to be stating something (even if it is meant to be a sledge) and then saying the exact opposite, later.

 

[Scallywag]

So exactly why shouldent Gilly sledge but others can sledge him. Remember sledging has nothing to do with walking when you think your out.

 

[honestbharani]

I never said Gilly should not sledge. He should simply not sledge by saying stuff like "the whole world is watching, champ" and then he later says he has no problems with people not walking. That is just such a pathetic example of double standards, even if it was meant as a sledge.

 

[Scallywag]

I never said Gilly should not sledge. He should simply not sledge by saying stuff like "the whole world is watching, champ" and then he later says he has no problems with people not walking. That is just such a pathetic example of double standards, even if it was meant as a sledge.

Do you think its pathetic double standards from Mcmillan to sledge Kaif for not walking then not walk himself when he gets an edge.

 

[C_C]

Scully i am still waiting for you to enlighten me on how i have been hypocritical...for my miniscule intelligence fails to recognise the instances.