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Steve Waugh v Shane Warne

Who was the better captain?


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As I've said many times before - Shane Warne's captaincy credentials are the biggest myth in cricket.

"Oh look at me, I can set a field with 23 slips and 83 men around the bat, and if it comes off I look like an attacking genius!!"
 

Himannv

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Waugh quite easily. Resolute and determined to get ahead while being fairly calm in the face of crisis.

Warne would have been too combustible to last the test of time IMO.
 

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I think Chris Tremlett, and one or two other players at Hampshire, would disagree with you on that one.
He wouldn't and didn't.

‘Shane was brilliant for me. I was timid and shy when he came to Hampshire and I think he took me to the next level. After I played Test cricket he gave me one of his books and he had written in it “I hope the penny has dropped”, so it’s interesting he should use those words again.’
Chris Tremlett says he has become the Wild Thing | Mail Online

I really hope this doesn't become an ongoing myth about Tremlett/Warne.
 

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I think Warne would have struggled with players who have a vastly different personality to himself - I can only really see him succeeding with an all time great side (which he would have had had he taken over from Mark Taylor until his retirement) or with a bunch of young players who'll look up to him and hang on his every word.

I don't think he'd be the man for a middle of the road team like Australia are now.
As a general point, I don't really think this is that likely. It would almost certainly be a problem if he were an even slightly lesser cricketer but it seems unlikely to me that any Australian cricketer might object to playing under Shane Warne. Certainly not to the extent that it would detract from his success as a captain. He's just too much of a legend.
 

Furball

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As a general point, I don't really think this is that likely. It would almost certainly be a problem if he were an even slightly lesser cricketer but it seems unlikely to me that any Australian cricketer might object to playing under Shane Warne. Certainly not to the extent that it would detract from his success as a captain. He's just too much of a legend.
Actually, if Australia had Warne c. 2003, he'd probably be the right man, given that a team including Hughes, Khawaja, Smith, Paine and possibly a new, inexperienced quick is a real possibility, so he'd probably be the ideal captain.

I don't think he'd work for a team like England, where all the players are a fairly experienced core, who know their games and have their particular way of doing things. I just don't see him getting the best out of, say, Bell or Anderson.

I'm fairly sure someone on here posted something where Tremlett admitted he was glad Warne had left Hampshire. Mr Brumby springs to mind for some reason.
 

Prince EWS

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Actually, if Australia had Warne c. 2003, he'd probably be the right man, given that a team including Hughes, Khawaja, Smith, Paine and possibly a new, inexperienced quick is a real possibility, so he'd probably be the ideal captain.

I don't think he'd work for a team like England, where all the players are a fairly experienced core, who know their games and have their particular way of doing things. I just don't see him getting the best out of, say, Bell or Anderson.

I'm fairly sure someone on here posted something where Tremlett admitted he was glad Warne had left Hampshire. Mr Brumby springs to mind for some reason.
Yeah, I agree with this. He'd be a good captain to rebuild a young and inexperienced team around, but I don't think he'd be a good fit with a more experienced team unless the players in it had established themselves as kids under him to begin with.
 

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