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Spearman for England?
- Thread starter The Baconator
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superkingdave
Hall of Fame Member
No way do we need Sausage boy - leave him to his cumberlands
Barney Rubble
International Coach
If Spearman is eligible for England, wouldn't that mean that players like Mushtaq Ahmed, Jamie Cox, Brad Hodge, Mike Hussey, Andy Flower, and Murray Goodwin either are eligible or will be soon? Or am I misunderstanding the ruling?
Barney Rubble
International Coach
Steds, can I join the Dave Mohammed fan club please?
Loony BoB
International Captain
While I agree that he sucked for NZ, if anyone here at all says that people cannot increase in talent or ability over the stage of four years, I'd have to assume they haven't watched much cricket lately. That's just stupid. Spearman wasn't exactly the best FC player in the world when he was playing for NZ. To say that the player he was then is in any way similar to the player he is now is also stupid. His career FC average is 38.5 - that's not incredible. Compare that to his average for this County season - 62.28. That's a lot better. Now, yes, he may be another Hick, but I can tell you now that when he was playing OD's and tests for NZ, he wasn't averaging 62.28 in domestic season, nor was he scoring double centuries. So while I can't deny that he might not be able to perform at international level, you can't deny that he might be able to. I'd say he'd be a good bet right now, to be honest.
If Spearman was to play for England and do well, I'd be proud that it was an NZ'er that was doing well - although I'd rather he didn't help England beat NZ at any time.
Form in county cricket might mean nothing, but a massive improvement over his past seasons and also four years since his last international? That could mean absoloutely anything.
If Spearman was to play for England and do well, I'd be proud that it was an NZ'er that was doing well - although I'd rather he didn't help England beat NZ at any time.
Form in county cricket might mean nothing, but a massive improvement over his past seasons and also four years since his last international? That could mean absoloutely anything.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Oh, there's no doubts Spearman's improved - I happened to read an article proclaiming his "final" career averages when it was assumed his leaving CD meant the end of his career.
His First-Class-average was 34.18 (it is now 38.45) and his one-day average was 23.22 (it is now 29.91).
His First-Class-average excluding Tests is currently 40.45, his one-day average excluding ODIs is currently 33.51.
I'd still prefer him not to be picked for England, just because he's already failed in Tests and ODIs, badly, and even if he were to have made some very-late-career improvements he'd only have about 3 years left in him.
His First-Class-average was 34.18 (it is now 38.45) and his one-day average was 23.22 (it is now 29.91).
His First-Class-average excluding Tests is currently 40.45, his one-day average excluding ODIs is currently 33.51.
I'd still prefer him not to be picked for England, just because he's already failed in Tests and ODIs, badly, and even if he were to have made some very-late-career improvements he'd only have about 3 years left in him.
Craig
World Traveller
If he plays for England I wouldn't having three years of consistentcy by any player so that IMO isn't a bad thing.
He is down the list at the moment. If Strauss and Trescothick fell over tomorrow and had to miss the tour of South Africa, Vaughan and Key (most likely) would open, although Butcher could do if asked (ie last resort).
He is down the list at the moment. If Strauss and Trescothick fell over tomorrow and had to miss the tour of South Africa, Vaughan and Key (most likely) would open, although Butcher could do if asked (ie last resort).