That 2nd XI thread has got me doing some thinking with the planning down the line. With the test side still in a slight transition phase squad wise, a world cup and the England Lions coming here there are interesting times ahead.
Say the test XI is :
Dean Elgar (27), Alviro Petersen (34), Faf du Plessis (30), Hashim Amla (31), AB de Villiers (30), JP Duminy (30), Quinton de Kock (22), Vernon Philander (29), Dane Piedt (24), Dale Steyn (31), Morne Morkel (30)
Only 4 players in their 20's but in test cricket it is fine. Faf, Hash, AB & JP are all fit in body and mind so could easily play for another 5 to 6 years. Vern is the number 1 test all-rounder & still contributing in both disciplines. Dale seems like he could go for another 3 to 4 years at least with his smarter use of his body in recent years.
Probably a concern is captaincy. With Amla, AB, Faf & JP all similar ages. Dean is a captain himself and probably the best bet but still needs to nail down his spot. After him, I don't think there is a definite leader until 23-and-under players.
Probable world cup squad members not in the test XI :
Rilee Rossouw (25), Dave Miller (25), Ryan McLaren (31), Wayne Parnell (25), Imran Tahir (35), Aaron Phangiso (30), Kyle Abbott (27)
Probably say Robin Peterson (35) & Lonwabo Tsotsobe (30) reckon they have a chance of pushing into that 15.
So therefore the above will probably not be considered for the Lions tour.
Openers
[23-27 Age group]
1. Reeza Hendricks (25) : A good age but his injury put him back a step. A classy player though & one you want to watch. Problem is he tends to find ways to get himself out.
2. David White (23) : Quite an aggressive opener who take son the short ball & good both sides of the wicket. Break through season last year.
[28+ Age group]
3. Andrew Puttick (34) : Been in the runs for years but possibly not at the right times. Not aesthetically pleasing but takes inspiration from Chris Rogers.
4. Stephen Cook (32) : Similar to Puttick but right-handed. Very strong on the leg-side like Graeme Smith. Oddly his former Protea father Jimmy had them both at his academy.
* Cook a possibility as captain but needs to get in the side first with Hendricks, White & Puttick probably in front of him.
Middle-order
[23-27 Age group]
1. Stiaan van Zyl (27) : Elegance & class but a concern for me is he can get dotted up but aesthetics make him a much watch.
2. Temba Bavuma (24) : Tiny in stature but he does have a good technique and likes to spend time at the crease. Much better in the longer version.
3. Gerhardt Abrahams (24) : Come out of nowhere since the back of last season. Lovely flick of the wrists. Seems to score runs this season even when struggling.
* Limited overs batsman
Richard Levi (26) who looks to have refined himself a touch and given himself more of a chance. No doubt that most destructive batsman in SA but probably still a WIP vs spin.
Jean Symes (27) very strong mentally and often produces the goods as a finisher at 5 or 6 for the Lions. Very under-rated. Missed the whole of last season with injury.
[28+ Age group]
1. Justin Ontong (34) : Been questioned for years but to be fair he is a very good cricketer who is just sort of top international standards. but a good leader for younger SA 'A' players.
2. Farhaan Behardien (31) : His technique isn't the greatest but he is in the form of his life. You just feel international cricket is too much but a good character & deserves a chance.
3. Colin Ingram (29) : Matured a bit latter than some. Started off well in limited overs cricket but come on leaps and bounds in 4-day cricket + a leader.
* Probably one of these 3 would be the captain seeing the issue with the captaincy in that 23-27 age bracket bar Dean Elgar.
Wicket-keepers
[23-27 age group]
1. Rudi Second (25) : Done very well for 2 seasons now particularly in the longer version but improving in limited overs cricket. One to watch.
2. Mangaliso Mosehle (24) : Just don't think he is good enough. Improving though but I've seen him drop catches & no hundreds to his name.
[28+ age group]
1. Dane Vilas (29) : Decent FC cricketer, dominates in spells but no consistency. de Kock at 22 will be around for ages, so no chance really.
All-rounders:
[28+ Age group]
1. David Wiese (29) : Got a decent technique & can hit a ball a mile. Bowls decent little outties but at a soft pace which is where he comes short. Deserves international opportunities though.
Spinners
[23-27 Age group]
1. Simon Harmer (25) : Was in contention with Piedt for test call-up to Zim, Done well for 3 to 4 yrs now. Attacking spinner but maybe a bit too slow through the air times. Good with bat & at slip.
2. Tabraiz Shamsi (24) : Still needs to become a regular at franchise level but was at the academy. Spins his chinaman and googly. Has potential.
[28+ Age group]
1. Eddie Leie (28) : Similar to Tahir in that toppy & the googly are his weapons. Very expressionate.
2. Shaun von Berg (28) : 'Shanie' Bowls a ripping leg-break & coming along nicely. They seem to prefer him in the longer version.
Seamers
[23-27 Age group]
1. Marchant de Lange (24) : Express pace, swings out & likes a Yorker. Time will tell re: injuries but probably suited more to limited overs cricket for now.
2. Chris Morris (27) : Good clean action & gets it into the 140s. For me better in longer version besides the perception that he is better limited overs cricket. Class in the field & good with the bat.
3. Beuran Hednricks (24) : He came a long way in a short space of time. Still reckon he is costly in limited overs cricket & better in the longer version. Good left-arm variation. Injured.
4. Hardus Viljoen (25) : Express pace and wicket-taker. Can hit the splice & likes a Yorker. Still not sure what you going to get though like the 3 above quite honestly.
* Mthokozisi Shezi (27) is a limited overs option. Not that quick but brings left-arm angle and decent change-ups. Like Tsotsobe but lacks the bounce.
[28+ Age group] - Tsotsobe here
1. Rory Kleinveldt (31) : Solid performer but never fit enough for international cricket & would rather punt from the 4 above and youngsters.
Was also thinking that an u23 side should be formed for a tour like they used to do in the 90's. Probably an important generation after the Amla, Faf, AB, JP, Dale, Morne, Vern etc Some could be in the 'A' side very soon. All have a good chance of being Proteas one day.
Batsmen:
1. Gihahn Cloete (22) - Classy left-handed top order bat. Two hundred for the Knights in 4-day cricket. Can keep wicket.
2. Aiden Markram (20) - Looked a very sound top order bat that can defend when needed and attack when required to do so. The captain.
3. Theunis de Bruyn (22) - Belligerent but classy. Always looking to score runs around the whole ground.
4. Diego Rosier (20) - Looks like a cool presence at the crease. Plays reverse and sweep v spinners & can pull pace. A leader.
5. Ryan Rickelton (18) - An opening batsman part of the SA u19 tour to England. SA u19 for next year too. Left-handed and can play all three formats equally well.
6. Grant Roelofsen (18) - Part of the SA u19 tour to England. Can open & be in the middle order & keeps wicket. Regular run scorer for KES, Old Eds. Like Rickelton for SA u19.
Wicket-keeper:
7. Clyde Fortuin (19) - Likened to Herschelle Gibbs in these part for natural talent. Started well for WP seniors.
Seamer All-rounders:
8. Calvin Savage (21) - Tall seamer who drives a good length. Backs himself at the death. When he played for the Dolphins they did well. Scored a couple of 50s with the bat to. Injuries.
9. Andile Phehlukwayo (18) - SA u19 tour to England & like Rickelton/Roelofsen & still u19. Powerful hitter with the bat & a nice strong seamer.
10. Dayyaan Galiem (17) - Probably more of a batsman but he bowls quality outties and innies. Still SA u19 for 2 years.
Spinner:
11. Prenelan Subrayen (21) - Hopefully gets over his action issues which I think is harsh. Talented though, can rip it, just needs to start taking regular wickets now.
Seamers:
12. Kagiso Rabada (19) - Good pace. Strong action and quick arm action with skiddy bouncer. Proteas debut now. Can play all formats.
13. Daryn Dupavillon (20) - Good pace, away swing, lovely rhythmic action. Good at Yorkers. Can be a bit skiddy with a bouncer, Can play all formats.
14. Craig Kirsten (20) - Good pace and very tall. Injury problems but a huge talent. Can play all formats.
15. Rabian Engelbrecht (22) - Good pace but his action is inconsistent. He angles into the batsman and tucks them up. Better for limited overs cricket. Looks to be over injury issues.
16. Corne Dry (21) - Not very quick (128-134kmph), drives a good length and nicks you off. Better for longer version cricket. Gets niggles now and again.