South Africa team selection

[StephenZA]

Markram
De Kock
Faf
van der Dussen
Miller
Duminy
Andile
Rabada
Steyn
Ngidi
Tahir

Don't disagree, but will be surprised if they take Amla along and he is not in first team initially. Expect Amla to open and Markram at 3. van der Dussen extra batsmen.

 

[SeamUp]

I'm going with MrPrez's team but would also understand if Amla started although I do think he isn't dynamic enough and his eyes have gone.

Also hope they don't think Lucky and Hulk can play in the same team on too many occasions.

 

[MrPrez]

I'm going with MrPrez's team but would also understand if Amla started although I do think he isn't dynamic enough and his eyes have gone.

Also hope they don't think Lucky and Hulk can play in the same team on too many occasions.

Hulk?

It'd be disappointing if they played Amla over van den Dussen. Amla has shown nothing recently while van den Dussen has been solid. Picking Amla over Reeza in the squad is justifiable because neither has played well recently - so rather take the guy with more upside.

Van den Dussen has actually scored runs, meaning he is the better option.

 

[SeamUp]

Hulk?

It'd be disappointing if they played Amla over van den Dussen. Amla has shown nothing recently while van den Dussen has been solid. Picking Amla over Reeza in the squad is justifiable because neither has played well recently - so rather take the guy with more upside.

Van den Dussen has actually scored runs, meaning he is the better option.

Dwaine.

Maybe do it up north like Durham if we have a game there & not one of the elite teams in Cardiff.

We must stick to 3 quicks and back their accuracy. I remember in Champs Trophy a few years ago how we bowled to short on that slow Cardiff pitch against India and the extra pace was dealt with. We can't do that this time.

 

[StephenZA]

Give a play off between Amla, Markram and Dussen during warm up? Else we play top 6 bats, 4 first choice bowlers (Rabad, Steyn, Ngidi, Tahir). Possibly have a play off between Andile and Dwaine during warm-up as well? We must not try extend batting by playing second choice bowlers.

It would be a big call, but I would not even mind us playing Nortje and going all out on the bowler front considering I wonder how much Dwaine or Andile actually add with the bat/ball!

 

[SeamUp]

Now that we know the squad. Who are the players of national interest for the winter outside WC squad ?

COBRAS

Pieter Malan
Janneman Malan (SA ACADEMY)
Zubayr Hamza
David Bedingham
Kyle Verreynne
Jason Smith (SA ACADEMY)
Vernon Philander
Dane Piedt
George Linde (club cricket in England)
Dane Paterson
Tladi Bokako (SA ACADEMY)
*Nandre Burger (SA ACADEMY)

WARRIORS

Eddie Moore (club cricket in England)
Gihahn Cloete
Matthew Breetzke (SA ACADEMY)
Rudi Second
Sinethemba Qeshile (SA ACADEMY)
Marco Marais
Lutho Sipamla (SA ACADEMY)
Sisanda Magala

DOLPHINS

Sarel Erwee
Marques Ackerman (Club cricket in England)
Khaya Zondo
Keshav Maharaj
Daryn Dupavillon
Eathan Bosch (SA ACADEMY)

KNIGHTS

Keegan Petersen
Raynard van Tonder (SA ACADEMY)
Wandile Makwetu (SA ACADEMY)
Gerald Coetzee (SA U19)


LIONS

Reeza Hendricks
Ryan Rickelton (Club cricket in England)
Temba Bavuma (NORTHANTS)
Wiaan Mulder
Bjorn Fortuin (SA ACADEMY)
Beuran Hendricks

TITANS

Dean Elgar (SURREY)
Tony de Zorzi (SA ACADEMY)
Theunis de Bruyn
Heinrich Klaasen
Chris Morris
Junior Dala



*Not 100% but looks like Nandre Burger is joining the Cobras. Lions couldn't create space in contracted squad.
** Think guys like Behardien/Frylinck won't be up for SA A selection now.

 

[SeamUp]

Give a play off between Amla, Markram and Dussen during warm up? Else we play top 6 bats, 4 first choice bowlers (Rabad, Steyn, Ngidi, Tahir). Possibly have a play off between Andile and Dwaine during warm-up as well? We must not try extend batting by playing second choice bowlers.

It would be a big call, but I would not even mind us playing Nortje and going all out on the bowler front considering I wonder how much Dwaine or Andile actually add with the bat/ball!

Do you know what warm-up games we have and how many ?

Supposedly they join up 12 May for camp.

 

[StephenZA]

Pretty comprehensive list that (above).....

Of real interest to me as potential future prospects and to see form:

Batsmen : de Bruyn, de Zorzi, Rickelton, van Tonder, Petersen, Breetzke, Qeshile, Marais, J Malan, Hamza, Bedingham, Verreynne
Bowlers: Coetzee, Bosch, Dupavillion, Burger, Sipamla, Piedt
Allrounders: Smith and Mulder

and of course Bavuma, Elgar, Maharaj and Philander, but they in SA test team anyway. Bavuma and Elgar hanging by a thread if anybody starts showing real form next year. Philander unsure for India in main team.

Pretty good prospects suddenly on batting and bowling starting to look light?

 

[StephenZA]

Do you know what warm-up games we have and how many ?

Supposedly they join up 12 May for camp.

One against SL and the other WI, 24th and 26th? Maybe could get another one in if allowed?

 

[SeamUp]

One against SL and the other WI, 24th and 26th? Maybe could get another one in if allowed?

Hopefully they do. I think 3 would be perfect even if against a county team.

 

[MrPrez]

Pretty comprehensive list that (above).....

Of real interest to me as potential future prospects and to see form:

Batsmen : de Bruyn, de Zorzi, Rickelton, van Tonder, Petersen, Breetzke, Qeshile, Marais, J Malan, Hamza, Bedingham, Verreynne
Bowlers: Coetzee, Bosch, Dupavillion, Burger, Sipamla, Piedt
Allrounders: Smith and Mulder

and of course Bavuma, Elgar, Maharaj and Philander, but they in SA test team anyway. Bavuma and Elgar hanging by a thread if anybody starts showing real form next year. Philander unsure for India in main team.

Pretty good prospects suddenly on batting and bowling starting to look light?

I wouldn't say so. Rmember, you've excluded Nortje and Ngidi from that list - we already have 5 pacers in the set-up before you consider guys like Burger, Sipambla etc. Whereas in the batting the guys you've mentioned are really ALL we have. There aren't any fringe guys between being regulars and in your list.

 

[marc71178]

One against SL and the other WI, 24th and 26th? Maybe could get another one in if allowed?

I'm pretty sure they're all prescribed by the ICC.

 

[Borges]

One against SL and the other WI, 24th and 26th? Maybe could get another one in if allowed?

There's nothing to prevent the team from playing an extra warm up game or two against who so ever. As long as the ICC scheduled warm ups are not skipped.

 

[SeamUp]

Interesting to see how many returning players we have for each world cup. Put them in bold. Also can we think of any players who were unlucky to have never been in a world cup squad ? Martin van Jaarsveld/Neil McKenzie/Eric Simons/Brett Schultz. Others ?

1992
Batsmen: Kepler Wessels (Eastern Province), Andrew Hudson (Natal), Peter Kirsten (Border), Hansie Cronje (Orange Free State), Jonty Rhodes (Natal), Mark Rushmere (Eastern Province)
Wicketkeeper: Dave Richardson (Eastern Province)
All-rounders: Adrian Kuiper (Western Province), Brian McMillan (Western Province)
Spinner: Omar Henry (Orange Free State)
Seamers : Allan Donald (Orange Free State), Richard Snell (Transvaal), Meyrick Pringle (Western Province), Tertius Bosch (Northern Transvaal)


1996 (5)
Batsmen: Gary Kirsten (Western Province), Andrew Hudson (Natal), Daryll Cullinan (Transvaal), Hansie Cronje (Free State), Jonty Rhodes (Natal)
Wicketkeeper : Steve Palframan (Boland)
All-rounders : Jacques Kallis (Western Province), Brian McMillan (Western Province), Shaun Pollock (Natal)
Spinners : Pat Symcox (Natal), Paul Adams (Western Province)
Seamers : Allan Donald (Free State), Craig Matthews (Western Province), Fanie de Villiers (Northern Transvaal)

1999 (7)
Batsmen: Gary Kirsten (WP), Herschelle Gibbs (WP), Daryll Cullinan (Gauteng), Hansie Cronje (Free State), Jonty Rhodes (KZN), Dale Benkenstein (KZN)
Wicketkeeper : Mark Boucher (Border)
All-rounders : Jacques Kallis (WP), Lance Klusener (KZN), Shaun Pollock (KZN)
Spinner : Nicky Boje (Free State), Derek Crookes (Gauteng)
Seamers : Allan Donald (Free State), Steve Elworthy (Northerns), Alan Dawson (WP)

2003 (8)
Batsmen: Gary Kirsten (WP), Herschelle Gibbs (WP), Graeme Smith (WP), Boeta Dippenaar (FS), Jonty Rhodes (KZN)
Wicketkeeper : Mark Boucher (Border)
All-rounders : Jacques Kallis (WP), Andrew Hall (Easterns), Shaun Pollock (KZN)
Spinners : Nicky Boje (FS), Robin Peterson (EP)
Seamers : Allan Donald (FS), Makhaya Ntini (Border), Charl Langeveldt (Boland), Monde Zondeki (Border)

2007 (9)
Batsmen : Graeme Smith (Cobras), Herschelle Gibbs (Cobras), AB de Villiers (Titans), Ashwell Prince (Warriors), Loots Bosman (Eagles)
Wicketkeeper : Mark Boucher (Warriors)
All-rounders : Jacques Kallis (Cobras), Justin Kemp (Titans), Shaun Pollock (Dolphins), Andrew Hall (Dolphins)
Spinners : Robin Peterson (Warriors)
Seamers : Makhaya Ntini (Warriors), Andre Nel (Titans), Charl Langeveldt (Lions), Roger Telemachus (Eagles)

2011 (4)
Batsmen : Graeme Smith (Cobras), Hashim Amla (Dolphins), Faf du Plessis (Titans), Colin Ingram (Warriors), JP Duminy (Cobras)
Wicketkeepers : AB de Villiers (Titans), Morne van Wyk (Knights)
All-rounders : Jacques Kallis (Warriors), Wayne Parnell (Warriors)
Spinners : Johan Botha (Warriors), Robin Peterson (Warriors), Imran Tahir (Dolphins)
Seamers : Dale Steyn (Titans), Morne Morkel (Titans), Lonwabo Tsotsobe (Warriors)

2015 (8)
Batsmen : Hashim Amla (Cobras), Rilee Rossouw (Knights), Faf Du Plessis (Titans), AB de Villiers (Titans), JP Duminy (Cobras), Dave Miller (Dolphins), Farhaan Behardien (Titans)
Wicketkeeper : Quinton de Kock (Lions)
All-rounders : Vernon Philander (Cobras), Wayne Parnell (Warriors)
Spinners : Imran Tahir (Dolphins), Aaron Phangiso (Lions)
Seamers : Dale Steyn (Cobras), Morne Morkel (Titans), Kyle Abbott (Dolphins)

2019 (7)
Batsmen : Hashim Amla (Cobras), Aiden Markram (Titans), Faf du Plessis (Titans), Rassie vd Dussen (Lions), Dave Miller (Dolphins), JP Duminy (Cobras)
Wicketkeeper : Quinton de Kock (Titans)
All-rounders : Andile Phehlukwayo (Dolphins), Dwaine Pretorius (Lions)
Spinners : Imran Tahir (Dolphins), Tabraiz Shamsi (Titans)
Seamers : Kagiso Rabada (Lions), Dale Steyn (Titans), Lungi Ngidi (Titans), Anrich Nortje (Warriors)

 

[SeamUp]

Some 1996 WC memories. Another tournament we blitzed everyone to come unstuck in the QF's by Brian Charles Lara masterclass.

 

[SeamUp]

 

[Dendarii]

Interesting to see how many returning players we have for each world cup. Put them in bold. Also can we think of any players who were unlucky to have never been in a world cup squad ? Martin van Jaarsveld/Neil McKenzie/Eric Simons/Brett Schultz. Others ?

Albie Morkel - he peaked between two World Cups, so went to the Champions Trophy in 2009 but didn't make it to the 2011 World Cup.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

What's the prediction on how far the SA team will in the WC?

 

[Rasimione]

It was always going to be this team going to England. Dwaine Pretorius is one lucky guy. He hasn't done anything to justify his selection IMO.

 

[StephenZA]

It was always going to be this team going to England. Dwaine Pretorius is one lucky guy. He hasn't done anything to justify his selection IMO.

He performed for a long time domestically, and eventually came good near the end of SL series. He is lucky because none of the other contenders did anything either. So it was pick on potential or pick experience... they went for experience. And team dynamic would be important here as well.