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Sloggin' Batsman = Good Batsman ?
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SJS
Hall of Fame Member
There is no such thing as a slogger (or rather someone who is ALWAYS slogging)!!
There is a slog. Its a way a stroke played by a batsman may be classified. Even a batsman like Sachin or Lara or Ponting can slog. But we dont call them sloggers because thats not what they do most of the time. But doesnt mean they will never slog.
Similarly, we may call someone a slogger. Take ASfridi's case. It doesnt mean every time Afridi plays a shot he slogs. It doesnt mean Afridi can play no cricketing shots other than pure slogs.
And finally improvisation has to be differentiated from slogging. When Afridi picks up a ball from the off stump amd flicks it to mid wicket, could be improvisationm. just because he slogs too doesnt mean that even when he plays cricketing shots or improvises thougtfully we should term it as a slog.
When I talked of three shota for one ball and one shot for the balls, I waas difernetiating between the capability to improvisin SUCCESSFULY and consistently versus slogging where the batsman has made up his mind where he his going to hit the ball and he doesnt do it taking into account wjere the ball is coming from or what it is doing.
To hit a ball unconventionally but intentionaly with a clear idea what youare doing and why AND in the full knowledge of what the ball is doing is imrovisation, but doing the same thing predeterminedly with no other consideration is slogging.
There is a slog. Its a way a stroke played by a batsman may be classified. Even a batsman like Sachin or Lara or Ponting can slog. But we dont call them sloggers because thats not what they do most of the time. But doesnt mean they will never slog.
Similarly, we may call someone a slogger. Take ASfridi's case. It doesnt mean every time Afridi plays a shot he slogs. It doesnt mean Afridi can play no cricketing shots other than pure slogs.
And finally improvisation has to be differentiated from slogging. When Afridi picks up a ball from the off stump amd flicks it to mid wicket, could be improvisationm. just because he slogs too doesnt mean that even when he plays cricketing shots or improvises thougtfully we should term it as a slog.
When I talked of three shota for one ball and one shot for the balls, I waas difernetiating between the capability to improvisin SUCCESSFULY and consistently versus slogging where the batsman has made up his mind where he his going to hit the ball and he doesnt do it taking into account wjere the ball is coming from or what it is doing.
To hit a ball unconventionally but intentionaly with a clear idea what youare doing and why AND in the full knowledge of what the ball is doing is imrovisation, but doing the same thing predeterminedly with no other consideration is slogging.
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Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Astle's innings is far, far, far, far, far better than anything I've ever seen.Voltman said:
Never seen anything that comes close.
Remember, though, an innings has to be chanceless to me for it to mean anything more than the score when the first chance was given.
I don't think a 300* is that good if the player should have been out on 13 - because good as the 287* may have been, it wouldn't have happened but for the let-off.
Astle, however, gave not one hint of a chance (well, some people tried to say the flick that hit Ramprakash on the body at short-leg before he had the slightest chance of moving his hands was one - but I know better, of course) and hit the ball with consistent venom the like of which I've never seen anyone come close to.
EDIT: the "I know better" comment is TIC, in case anyone may doubt