It wasn't so bizarre what I said, I just thought the thread would be solely about Katich not just a quirky debate.What a bizarre thing to say. This thread isn't a shrine.
So a football goalkeeper has never made a fine save?
Aside from the fact his average is 50% better with three times as many tons in half the number of Tests. Total coincidence, of course.
If you're a decent player, no matter where you bat, you'll do well. Tons of examples of guys who've started in different positions in the order than they started. Tons of examples of it going the other way too. Kat's a good enough player these days it wouldn't matter where he batted.
That's not the way CW.n works, nor any decent forum. Discussion evolves.
I'm really not sure what you're getting at. A fine save is different to stopping a ball you cannot stop because its path is at such an angle \ pace that you are unable to reach it.
It could be; it could not be. There is no way to be either certain the opening has made a difference, nor certain it has not.
I've seen enough examples to disprove this, to me. Maybe you should do well wherever you bat if you're a decent batsman, but it certainly doesn't always happen, nor close to.
Meh all I'm saying is it takes two to tango.
Yeah it's interesting how just changing someone's position in the order can change them completely as a player. Everyone remembers Michael Slater being a rubbish ODI player. What they might not remember was the couple of half-tons he hit at 6 in his last stint as a ODI player. Totally changed the way he played the game; instead of trying to spank the bowling, he Bevvo'ed the ball around, scored at a decent clip and looked a far better player. Had he been tried in that way earlier, I reckon he'd have had a longer ODI career.
Not sure you are TBPH, but I doubt we'll get much more mileage out of this, so leave it there.
Nah, it'd not survive without either. But at least watching bowlers bowling at stumps is better than watching batsmen stand there waiting for a delivery that never comes down.Cricket would survive better without bowlers then without batters.
Big LOL at work, just picturing a day at the cricket where the batsman are standing there waiting for a ball to be bowled.
I agree, but Steyn did get Katich plenty of times in the last couple of series though. Hussey too. He's certainly improved in that area to some extent.
1389 runs @ 53.42 at Test level since his return. Has been one of the top opening batsman in the world for the past one a half years, and you have only just heard he has improved?
Sorry Richard, I have to disagree. Every shot can be saved one way or another, and every ball in cricket can dismiss the batsman or be kept out. A bullet going top right corner could have been saved if the keeper was standing nearer to the right post and had better anticipation, for example. Likewise, it's just wrong when a commentator gushes that 'no one could have kept that one out' when a batsman gets out. Really grinds my gears, actually.
I'd guess they don't mean comments like that to be taken literally.
What you overlook is realistic and unrealistic. Yes, there is indeed a theoretical chance that anything can be kept out or let in, either as a goalkeeper or batsman, but in practice there are plenty of things both have no realistic chance to keep out.
The big change, to me, appears to be technical and in his decision-making. Hasn't had big foot movements for a while now and is really clear on which balls to play at or leave. Has turned into a thorough pro with the bat. Genuine danger man for England for the rest of the series. Especially since England put so much effort into scaring little Hughsie back to the pavillion, they forgot about Kat.
I agree. He reminds me of Justin Langer now. Gritty, tough, determined.
I doubt it. I just imagine their best chance of dismissing him - swing - refused to come into play.