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Should Mankading law be outlawed?

Should Mankading be outlawed?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 6.1%
  • No

    Votes: 62 93.9%

  • Total voters
    66

Daemon

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Yeah the more often it's done, the more acceptable it's going to become as a mode of dismissal and eventually batsmen are just going to stay in their crease.

We just need a really high profile mankad now to set things in motion. Imagine an India Pakistan WT20 final where Amir mankads Kohli.
 

Daemon

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Initially I thought it was unfair because it was momentum that took him of his crease, but if you slow it down and watch it he does leave his crease a bit early.
 

hendrix

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However, under Law 42.15 it remains entirely legal for a bowler to run out a non-striker who has strayed outside his crease after he has started his run up, but before he has entered his delivery stride. (Appendix D of the 2000 Code defines delivery stride as the stride during which the delivery swing is made; it starts when the bowler's back foot lands for that stride and ends when the front foot lands in the same stride).

"The bowler is permitted, before releasing the ball and provided he has not completed his usual delivery swing, to attempt to run out the non-striker. Whether the attempt is successful or not, the ball shall not count as one of the over. If the bowler fails in an attempt to run out the non-striker, the umpire shall call and signal dead ball as soon as possible."

The umpires shall deem the bowler to have completed his delivery swing once his bowling arm passes the normal point of ball release.[7]


Hmmm. Two contradictory laws there.

Think the arm should not be raised.
 

grecian

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I don't think there's anything in cricket I've done such a clear 1turnaround on in my life. Used to think it was terrible, but now think it's the right thing. Bored with this now, I don't even want the warning, the warning means that the non-striker has been noticed at trying to find an advantage, but now gets let off.

Just have it known that running out an opponent is what teams do is legal, maybe have the captains announce it before the match, it's basically only saying you are going by the rules, then everyone will stop trying to try to create an unfair advantage, and the problem goes away.

Edit it seems this has been covered early in the thread but just saying I agree, oh and Gimp probably is against modern cricket even though that's the only stuff he's watched.
 
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Neil Pickup

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It's definitely different under ICC regulations than Laws of the Game.

Under Laws of the Game you have to be spectacularly inattentive to get out like this; under ICC regs (changed after a WT20 when they realised non strikers were legally taking yards) all you need to do is stay in your crease until the ball is released. Not hard...
 

HeathDavisSpeed

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The trouble will be properly officiating this in club cricket where the rule is different when players have seen these type of dismissals growing in regularity in televised matches. Can definitely see this leading to disputes and occasional fisticuffs in club cricket.
 

GIMH

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I don't think there's anything in cricket I've done such a clear 1turnaround on in my life. Used to think it was terrible, but now think it's the right thing. Bored with this now, I don't even want the warning, the warning means that the non-striker has been noticed at trying to find an advantage, but now gets let off.

Just have it known that running out an opponent is what teams do is legal, maybe have the captains announce it before the match, it's basically only saying you are going by the rules, then everyone will stop trying to try to create an unfair advantage, and the problem goes away.

Edit it seems this has been covered early in the thread but just saying I agree, oh and Gimp probably is against modern cricket even though that's the only stuff he's watched.
I don't care one way or another about mankading but I do know you're obsessed with me
 

flibbertyjibber

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I have to say with Mankading I love the furore afterwards. I think it is great to add spice to the game but I would hate my side to be involved in one.
 

Dan

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The trouble will be properly officiating this in club cricket where the rule is different when players have seen these type of dismissals growing in regularity in televised matches. Can definitely see this leading to disputes and occasional fisticuffs in club cricket.
This happens already with overhead no balls vs overhead wides, runner rules etc. The amount of times I get lectured on the 'rules' by someone who doesn't know that there is a difference between the MCC Laws and ICC playing conditions is insane.
 

Dan

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That's a complete bull**** Mankad, and exactly the kind of thing I was talking about earlier in the thread. All of Chapman's movement out of the crease comes after the bowler has pulled out of bowling -- heck, the umpire was starting to move his hands into the signal for dead ball.

At the time the ball would have regularly come out of the bowler's hand, Chapman was fine.
 
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Dan

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Also, how do we define "delivery swing", because I reckon the guy's completed his there, he just didn't release the ball.
 

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