Shane Warne got off lightly says Anti-Doping Agency Chief

[Scallywag]

That punishment was too severe. However, since supposedly Sachin was found guilty of tampering, he was handed the ban. Dravid's case was puzzling as the mint could'nt have had much of an effect on the ball.
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I think it might be a good idea to stop here as you bias is showing.

 

[PY]

You are making hypocrisy an art form at the moment.

 

[Scallywag]

Me neither.But even if there was no drug testing before the WC2003 , whos to say that the ACB couldnt have supressed it like they supressed the Information-for-money scandal involving Warne and M waugh ?
This sounds like pure speculation, but isnt that what this thread is about ?

Tendulkar examined by Madhavan over 1999 Ahmedabad Test
1 July 2001

The Vigilance Commissioner of India's cricket Board, K Madhavan has examined batting mastreo Sachin Tendulkar in connection with the controversial Ahmedabad Test match in 1999 when India did not enforce the follow-on against New Zealand despite being in a position to do so.

The Ahmedabad Test sparked a serious controversy after the Indian side did not ask the Kiwis to follow on. The match, which ended in a draw, was played from October 29 to November 2. About his finding in the Ahmedabad Test, Madhavan said "my inquires have revealed that the match was drawn due to certain factors and I cannot say anything beyond this."

Yes we all know how bad Warne is but what are is the Indian Cricket Board hiding.

 

[Deja moo]

Kapil dev was coach for that match.

Didnt the BCCI report indict him openly ?

Did the ACB expose Warne openly ?

 

[chicane]

I think it might be a good idea to stop here as you bias is showing.

Look at your post history you are the one who's biased.

 

[Scallywag]

Look at your post history you are the one who's biased.

OK if it helps you sleep "I'm the biased one"

 

[Waughney]

Me neither.But even if there was no drug testing before the WC2003 , whos to say that the ACB couldnt have supressed it like they supressed the Information-for-money scandal involving Warne and M waugh ?
This sounds like pure speculation, but isnt that what this thread is about ?

There was drug testing before the world cup, one Australian domestic player was caught (not sure, a Western Australia player), if they tested domestic players they surely tested national ones.

On the topic of the thread Shane Warne took a banned substance, but it was out of vanity and not for cheating, he probably did use it to lose weight but he took a banned substance all the same and payed for it with an adequate 12 month ban.

 

[luckyeddie]

There was drug testing before the world cup, one Australian domestic player was caught (not sure, a Western Australia player), if they tested domestic players they surely tested national ones.

On the topic of the thread Shane Warne took a banned substance, but it was out of vanity and not for cheating, he probably did use it to lose weight but he took a banned substance all the same and payed for it with an adequate 12 month ban.

There was 'occasional' domestic testing in Australia, New Zealand and England for a couple of years, but testing prior to and during international events only came in at the start of 2003.

You're in all likelihood correct in stating that he took the diuretic for reasons of vanity (so that he would look better on television) and consequently he could consider himself unlucky, so the lenient sentence reflects that fact

(which is, I think, where we came in).

 

[Craig]

I wasn't aware that they had much of an out-of-competition drug-testing policy prior to the run-up to WC2003 anyway. Cricket had always been looked upon as a low-priority sport from a drug-testing perspective.

Didnt Ed Giddins get banned for 18 months for testing positive for a banned drug?

 

[marc71178]

Dravid was punished for his ignorance but experts have argued as to how the mint could've aided swing.

Actually, Wine Gums are better for aiding swing than Mints are...

 

[marc71178]

Diuretics are used to flush out any other drugs.....So how could any other drugs be found you tool !

The key words being "Other Previous Tests"

As for the un-necessary name-calling, there's a saying in England about Pots and Kettles...

 

[marc71178]

But even if there was no drug testing before the WC2003 , whos to say that the ACB couldnt have supressed it like they supressed the Information-for-money scandal involving Warne and M waugh ?

Because the ACB isn't the only body that conducts Drug Tests?

 

[bennyr]

There was drug testing before the world cup, one Australian domestic player was caught (not sure, a Western Australia player), if they tested domestic players they surely tested national ones.

Greame Rummans (NSW/Vic) tested positive to a masking agent in 2001 and was suspended for a month in 2002. He got off very lightly.

 

[marc71178]

Didnt Ed Giddins get banned for 18 months for testing positive for a banned drug?

Yes, but that was cocaine (which has the added problem of being illegal)

 

[Sanz]

Tendulkar examined by Madhavan over 1999 Ahmedabad Test
1 July 2001

The Vigilance Commissioner of India's cricket Board, K Madhavan has examined batting mastreo Sachin Tendulkar in connection with the controversial Ahmedabad Test match in 1999 when India did not enforce the follow-on against New Zealand despite being in a position to do so.

The Ahmedabad Test sparked a serious controversy after the Indian side did not ask the Kiwis to follow on. The match, which ended in a draw, was played from October 29 to November 2. About his finding in the Ahmedabad Test, Madhavan said "my inquires have revealed that the match was drawn due to certain factors and I cannot say anything beyond this."

Yes we all know how bad Warne is but what are is the Indian Cricket Board hiding.

Why dont you tell us . You seem to know everything. FYI, Madhavan doesn't work work for Indian Cricket Board and his report was fair. The fact that BCCI banned 4 players (including two top players Md. Azharuddin and Ajay Jadeja) on the basis of his report proves that it was an open and independent inquiry and BCCI had no say in it.

You are one funny man. Sachin Tendulkar was called 'only as a witness' (the part you carefully chose to remove). Here is what Mr. Madhavan had to say about the whole issue :-

'..Madhavan's final 52-page report, made available to AFP, said there was "no misconduct" on the part of India's then team management - comprising coach Kapil Dev and captain Sachin Tendulkar - over their failure to enforce the follow on in the Ahmedabad Test against New Zealand in 1999.

Eyebrows were raised when India, leading by 275 runs, failed to make the Kiwis follow on after lunch on the fourth day and allowed the tourists to force a draw.

It was alleged that bookmakers made a lot of money after being tipped off by an insider that the follow on would not be enforced.

"There was no misconduct of any type in not enforcing the follow on against New Zealand," Madhavan wrote in his report, adding he found the statements of both Kapil and Tendulkar "satisfactory".

Both Tendulkar and Kapil Dev told Madhavan that the decision not to enforce the follow on was taken only 30 minutes after lunch on the fourth day when the New Zealand first innings came to an end, the report states.

According to Madhavan, Tendulkar said that he, "Kapil Dev and the other players had a discussion when the bowlers, particularly (pace spearhead Javagal) Srinath said that having bowled for two and a half hours or so in the heat they all felt tired.

"They suggested a short break by India batting, piling up a good score and then declaring. This was the consensus arrived at by all players and Kapil Dev," the report states.

"This was the reason for India not enforcing the follow on. No one tried to influence anyone."

Madahvan, a former director of the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI), said the allegation that bookies knew about the decision not to enforce the follow on the evening before, was according to Kapil and Tendulkar, "impossible".

"There was no misconduct of any type in not enforcing the follow on against New Zealand. It was just bad luck for India and one more instance to confirm that cricket is a game of glorious uncertainties," the report states..'

Sachin is not the first captain to do so, I remember Mark taylor doing it too, I also remember Ganguly doing it in recent Australia series. .

 

[biased indian]

OK if it helps you sleep "I'm the biased one"

Oh after a long wait an unbiased honest post

 

[Wazim]

I just happened to notice that your English in this post is perfect , compared to your post in "Murali I will continue to bowl the doosra" . Did you have quick English coaching between these two posts or are you secure in your identity in this post as opposed to trying to emphasize your assumed false identity in that post ?

lol no no. i am just lazy...when i type i type, if i make a mistake,i am too lazy to go back and retype it ..lol

 

[marc71178]

Oh after a long wait an unbiased honest post

As the pot speaks to the kettle...

 

[PY]

Wish some of these pots and kettles you speak of would come and stay in our uni kitchen for a while. They seem to walk off of their own accord currently.

 

[Top_Cat]

First-off, I think Shane's penalty was about right. 1 year for taking a potential masking agent seems fair, particularly since there's no evidence of other drug involvement. If he'd been taking other drugs, well there would normally be whispers about that sort of thing around the traps. Where there's smoke, there's fire and with a high-profile cricketer like Warnie taking any growth hormones or 'roids, there would have been rumours. It's the way it's always gone and I don't imagine Warnie is so damn smart that he'd be able to hide it.

As for Graeme Rummans, didn't he get in trouble for smoking marijuana?