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Shakib Al Hasan vs Ian Botham / Burgey vs *****

Who the better all rounder

  • Shakib Al Hasan

    Votes: 21 42.9%
  • Ian Botham

    Votes: 28 57.1%

  • Total voters
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Daemon

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Was in the air for the last 13 hours. I think we can all agree that airplane food is the ****ing worst. The woman next to me even put sugar in her beef to mask the awful taste.
 

Burgey

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Which Rose are you scoffing? I hope it's dry. I find it a good match with lamb in warmer months but not so much in winter, when I prefer a red. Each to one's own I suppose.
 

Burgey

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Was in the air for the last 13 hours. I think we can all agree that airplane food is the ****ing worst. The woman next to me even put sugar in her beef to mask the awful taste.
Where were you going? It must have been Europe or America as Australia is only about 8 hours from Singers.
 

Mr Miyagi

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Which Rose are you scoffing? I hope it's dry. I find it a good match with lamb in warmer months but not so much in winter, when I prefer a red. Each to one's own I suppose.
Some effort by Montanna. It isn't dry, it is pushing towards too sweet. But its definitely well above average and passes. But I do love a good red or rose with lamb. Impeccable combination.

Personally I much prefer dry whites to sweet whites, even pinot gris is too sickly sweet for me these days as I come to much admire a dry chardonnay so much more than alternatives in white grapes.

And you can stick the German grapes where you found them as far as I am concerned.

Pinot Noir, Cab Sav and Merlots are fabulous grapes.

I think my dry palette for wine and cider, is why I may favour Australian beer to NZ's. Aussies seem to get understand savoury flavours of bitter and dry, over sweeter and possibly more quenching NZ beers.

NZ beer standards annoy me. NZ should make better beer than Aus, but I am not convinced that we do. But I think overall we have your wine beat. Not that Aus doesn't make some very good wine.
 
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Burgey

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Mr Miyagi bringing it hard here.

Agree re dry whites. Also prefer Chardonnay, especially over Sav Blanc, which is ****ing everywhere and just tastes the same regardless of vineyard.

Like a Cloudy Bay of the NZ chardonnays, though am heading to Queenstown for a weekend in July and will hopefully sample many more.

Have you tucked into a Scarborough chardonnay from the Hunter? If not, can recommend.
 

Daemon

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Where were you going? It must have been Europe or America as Australia is only about 8 hours from Singers.
Paris. Got 2 hours or so to kill now before the next flight to Lisbon. Disappointed this thread didn't have another 100 pages to get through so I'll now have to find other means of entertainment.

Also don't call it Singers man pls. Although it is much better than adding the second favourite Aussie suffix to make it 'Singo'
 

Mr Miyagi

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Mr Miyagi bringing it hard here.

Agree re dry whites. Also prefer Chardonnay, especially over Sav Blanc, which is ****ing everywhere and just tastes the same regardless of vineyard.

Like a Cloudy Bay of the NZ chardonnays, though am heading to Queenstown for a weekend in July and will hopefully sample many more.

Have you tucked into a Scarborough chardonnay from the Hunter? If not, can recommend.
Queenstown is gorgeous. You're fortunate. Enjoy winterfest :) I love it down there, my only criticism is that there's too many Australians... ;)

You've turned it into your back bloody yard. Go to Canberra already.
 

Mr Miyagi

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Paris. Got 2 hours or so to kill now before the next flight to Lisbon. Disappointed this thread didn't have another 100 pages to get through so I'll now have to find other means of entertainment.

Also don't call it Singers man pls. Although it is much better than adding the second favourite Aussie suffix to make it 'Singo'
If you're stuck on the plane - look for Cobra Kai - the Karate Kid sitcom spin off. Watch all 10 episodes, they just get better and better and funnier and funnier.
 

Burgey

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Paris. Got 2 hours or so to kill now before the next flight to Lisbon. Disappointed this thread didn't have another 100 pages to get through so I'll now have to find other means of entertainment.

Also don't call it Singers man pls. Although it is much better than adding the second favourite Aussie suffix to make it 'Singo'
Ah yes, the Lisbon trip. Enjoy mate.
 

Mr Miyagi

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Sav Blanc is just liquid acid, with or without sugar.

The acidity alone makes me want to pour it into my car battery as opposed to drinking it.

I am sure it can power a light bulb and get me drunk, but neither seems to be the best way about doing either.
 

Burgey

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I think if you want to avoid the most of a hangover, get drunk on vodka. Never get a headache from it.
 

Mr Miyagi

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I think if you want to avoid the most of a hangover, get drunk on vodka. Never get a headache from it.

This is true comparatively against darker drinks. Same for gin, white rum or white wine.

But if you'll learn that Newton's theories even apply to alcohol.

What goes up must come down.

As such, red wine, whiskey and the darker spirits will get you more drunk, even though the cost is a worse hangover.

I love light and dark spirits just as I love I love red and white wine, but they're different.
 
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Burgey

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It has to be said, the price of any decent imported wine throughout Asia is bloody ridiculous. The only alcohol which I found prohibitively expensive there. Probably explains why ***** lacks the sophistication to appropriately match liquor with food.
 

Mr Miyagi

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Every wine drinker who has drunk red wine after a period of drinking white, or drinking bourbon after a period of drinking vodka knows the feeling - either the drinking euphoria or the morning after. But there's actually a science to support it.
 

Mr Miyagi

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It has to be said, the price of any decent imported wine throughout Asia is bloody ridiculous. The only alcohol which I found prohibitively expensive there. Probably explains why ***** lacks the sophistication to appropriately match liquor with food.

Asian wine and spirits is something they havn;t mastered.

Food they win. Beer at worst they tie.

Wine, spirits, and deserts, they're losing.
 
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Burgey

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Every wine drinker who has drunk red wine after a period of drinking white, or drinking bourbon after a period of drinking vodka knows the feeling - either the drinking euphoria or the morning after. But there's actually a science to support it.
What about when you make the chronic mistake of starting on red, running out and reverting to white? Holy ****, that's the worst.

Red into white spoils the night.
 

Mr Miyagi

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What about when you make the chronic mistake of starting on red, running out and reverting to white? Holy ****, that's the worst.

Red into white spoils the night.
You're talking to someone who is well aware of not to mix the grain with the grape, but nevertheless will crack open a scotch when the wine runs out.

No wonder my mum was smart and drank brandy at worst or preferably cognac. :)
 
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Mr Miyagi

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Wine is an amusing thing, I used to work for a guy who swore black and blue that he was a chardonnay drinker preferably. But I am telling you, over years, if there was a rose or a chardonnay in the fridge, regardless of the vineyard, he would drink the rose as a first option.

He would drink a cold chardonnay - even typically with ice cubes as not refrigerated over red grapes though. Red wines were always the last to go overall.

He would take a cold chardonnay in the fridge over ice cubes in a rose. But still. To me it was clear was his preference really was.
 
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