Scott Boland

[halba]

Deserves a thread. Hes one of the aussie heroes of the last few years isnt he. Hail Boland.

50 wickets since starting his career a few years ago at an average of 19. Hes only had a few off games overseas(was great in the WTC v India)

One of the best bowlers i have ever seen, especially on home decks.

Hes got a great team attitude, and was vital in the MCG win- as a tail ender he soaked up over a 100 balls between 2 innings whilst batting.

 

[Molehill]

Might end up with the biggest difference in average between home and away Tests (19 v 115). The bloke should have his passport taken off him, it was called out before the 2023 Ashes and he delivered what was expected.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Might end up with the biggest difference in average between home and away Tests (19 v 115). The bloke should have his passport taken off him, it was called out before the 2023 Ashes and he delivered what was expected.

You leave him alone.

When it comes to The Ashes, he is our James Anderson.

Although Anderson averaged 86 at home in the last Ashes, so I would rank Boland quite a few rungs above him.

 

[vicleggie]

Similar style to Siddle, just better though. Meatier, does more with the ball and hits the deck harder.

Hard to say how good he'd be if he'd have played 50+ tests.

 

[halba]

Similar style to Siddle, just better though. Meatier, does more with the ball and hits the deck harder.

Hard to say how good he'd be if he'd have played 50+ tests.

He's a starter for next Ashes. I assume Hazelwood will be hard to come back at age 35 especially with his injury history. Boland is undroppable now.

 

[Molehill]

Just realised his away average is actually 132, it's 115 in England where he did at least manage to take a wicket, but he never achieved that in India.

Similar style to Siddle, just better though. Meatier, does more with the ball and hits the deck harder.

Hard to say how good he'd be if he'd have played 50+ tests.

Would he have had to play some outside Australia?

 

[Arachnödouche2.0]

Brilliant. Seems like an overall good guy too, very un-Aussie in that regard. Must be the indigenous part of him.

 

[vicleggie]

Just realised his away average is actually 132, it's 115 in England where he did at least manage to take a wicket, but he never achieved that in India.



Would he have had to play some outside Australia?

Yes definitely. That's what I mean when I say I'm not sure.

Not tested in all conditions like say Philander or Ryan Harris - both those guys I'm confident in saying were truly excellent bowlers

 

[ataraxia]

Deserves a thread. Hes one of the aussie heroes of the last few years isnt he. Hail Boland.

50 wickets since starting his career a few years ago at an average of 19. Hes only had a few off games overseas(was great in the WTC v India)

One of the best bowlers i have ever seen, especially on home decks.

Hes got a great team attitude, and was vital in the MCG win- as a tail ender he soaked up over a 100 balls between 2 innings whilst batting.

Hmm.

 

[halba]

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Hmm.

it was true though? AVG 150 overseas, 15 at home - post said to only use him at home - other posters said to cancel his passport lol.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Might end up with the biggest difference in average between home and away Tests (19 v 115). The bloke should have his passport taken off him, it was called out before the 2023 Ashes and he delivered what was expected.

It's an away sample of like 2 matches lol

 

[Molehill]

It's an away sample of like 2 matches lol

It's 3, surely you've got enough fingers to cover that?

For a bloke who's nearly 36, to have played such little cricket abroad is strange. 2 IPL games and 3 Tests is pretty much it. I suspect he's not going to add to that either.

 

[TheJediBrah]

For a bloke who's nearly 36, to have played such little cricket abroad is strange

If he was English he'd have 400 Test wickets

 

[Molehill]

If he was English he'd have 400 Test wickets

Given that he only managed to bowl 13 overs in one CC game before getting injured, it would seem unlikely (no wickets obviously). Even Chris Woakes (sorry RIS) is more use than him overseas.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Given that he only managed to bowl 13 overs in one CC game before getting injured, it would seem unlikely (no wickets obviously). Even Chris Woakes (sorry RIS) is more use than him overseas.

Your ignorance is quite astounding my friend. Let's ignore the extremely limited value of data obtained with such a small sample, a concept which you seem to have trouble with. When Scott Boland played in England, Jimmy Anderson averaged 109 in the same game. And against batsmen less used to those conditions no less. It's not indicative of his ability overseas, it's just a bad game or 2 on flat wickets doctored by England to suit their cringey "bazball". A typical English pitch would be his bread and butter and over the course of a career he would be statistically excellent.

The game he played in India was definitely not suited to him though. If you were to say he has limited value in Asia, rather than "overseas", you'd be not far off.

 

[Molehill]

Your ignorance is quite astounding my friend. Let's ignore the extremely limited value of data obtained with such a small sample, a concept which you seem to have trouble with. When Scott Boland played in England, Jimmy Anderson averaged 109 in the same game. And against batsmen less used to those conditions no less. It's not indicative of his ability overseas, it's just a bad game or 2 on flat wickets doctored by England to suit their cringey "bazball". A typical English pitch would be his bread and butter and over the course of a career he would be statistically excellent.

The game he played in India was definitely not suited to him though. If you were to say he has limited value in Asia, rather than "overseas", you'd be not far off.

Anderson didn't get smacked around the park though. And as for batsmen not used to those conditions, come on.....are you suggesting Smith and Labuschagne don't like batting in England? Only Green from the Top 7 had never played CC.

It was called out before the Ashes that Boland had virtually no experience overseas and that he could well be a one trick pony. He's yet to prove otherwise (but tbf it's a decent trick). Hoping that age may have caught up with him this time next year.

 

[TheJediBrah]

He's yet to prove otherwise

I wouldn't say anything is "proven" either way. You're the one making that claim based on a couple of games on flat wickets

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

The bloke should have his passport taken off him, it was called out before the 2023 Ashes and he delivered what was expected.

Hmm, my memory is literally the opposite - I thought he was hyped as someone who was destined to excel in England. ("If he can destroy the English on Aussie roads, imagine what he'll do to them on an English greentop...")


He's smashing it at home though for sure. Seems a decent, down to earth guy as well.

 

[chris.hinton]

He's the Aussie Chris Woakes

Excellent in home conditions. Vary rarely makes an impression in overseas tests

 

[Molehill]

I wouldn't say anything is "proven" either way. You're the one making that claim based on a couple of games on flat wickets

Flat wickets? No team scored over 300 at Leeds and only 3 wickets fell to spinners. He was rightfully dropped after that match as the worst seamer in the game.

Hmm, my memory is literally the opposite - I thought he was hyped as someone who was destined to excel in England. ("If he can destroy the English on Aussie roads, imagine what he'll do to them on an English greentop..."

I know I called it out that he had no experience overseas at the time.