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Rugby League - International

morgieb

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TBF, Les Calatans already have too many overseas players.
Does the visa crackdown still apply in Wales?
Looks like the end of Bird & Carney......
Anyway, they'd still probably need a working visa to play in England.
 

Simon

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Carney is still a chance of turning out for Goulburn this season and the Raiders have already said if their first two choice number 7's are unavailable and Carney is fit and playing there than they would consider turning to him. Would be an amazing comeback if true but stranger things have happened.

Not entirely sure everyone at the Raiders would be thrilled with this outcome though.
 

Craig

World Traveller
From what I understand, all is not lost for Greg Eastwood, his old man was born in Huddersfield so he is the process of getting a British passport, but at that time he had to apply for a visa, but they said no. So I guess once he gets his passport, he can sign on with Leeds without any issues then?
 

ripper868

International Coach
Best bet might be Les Catalans, tbf. It's possible yer French don't have such strigent criteria for permits as we (suddenly) seem to.

Course not everyone can sign for them, so union frogside could be another option.
On the money is brumby as bird heads to catalans
 

steds

Hall of Fame Member
Game between the welsh team and Wakefield called off due to "unforseen circumstances." Rumours vary from the general concensus that one of the players in the Academy game beforehand being injured and airlifted to hospital, to the slight embellishment that it's fatal, to the rather farfetched death of a first team player.

Sounds serious whatever it is.
 

steds

Hall of Fame Member
Game between the welsh team and Wakefield called off due to "unforseen circumstances." Rumours vary from the general concensus that one of the players in the Academy game beforehand being injured and airlifted to hospital, to the slight embellishment that it's fatal, to the rather farfetched death of a first team player.

Sounds serious whatever it is.
Leon Walker dies

Tragic.

Continuance of a shocking 6 months for Wakefield. Adam Watene dies in October, Richard Moore diagnosed with Crohn's disease last month and now this.
 

morgieb

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Does the change in the Kolpak ruling mean that the Samoan's/Tongan's will be classified as overseas players next year?
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Does the change in the Kolpak ruling mean that the Samoan's/Tongan's will be classified as overseas players next year?
Good question, actually. Honestly don't know.

There's never quite been the fuss around Kolpaks in league that there has in cricket tho, so maybe there won't be the will to force through a change.
 

steds

Hall of Fame Member
Haha. Unbelievable negligence by the club to fail to ensure their player's papers are in order. They shouldn't be anywhere near Super League. No ground of their own and a team half full of aussies, most of whom we now find are working here illegally. The club's a farce.

With van Dijk and Hannay gone, Leeds will put 100 on them this weekend. Let's see what that does for rugby league in Wales (will kill Saints' chances of finishing top, too. Goodbye points difference advantage.)
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Where'd you stand on expansion versus the heartlands for league, steds?

Pretty hard to know what's for the best. On the one hand I always reckon if more people see the sport it will grow because it is good product, but equally if I were a (say) Widnes fan and my team was excluded from the top flight for three (IIRC) years for what seems a two-bob job I'd be mightly pissed off.

Think there's too much wishful thinking in the expansion teams sometimes; at least with Les Catalans the French team plays in a league stronghold. Well, such as they are in France.
 

steds

Hall of Fame Member
I'm all for expansion if it's done properly. In the case of the Crusader's, it wasn't.

There's no way that in the 3 years the club had existed before this season, that it could have proved that it had set up any sort of working youth system or that there was a long-term market for rugby league in South Wales, especially considering 2 of the 3 seasons where in National League 2. I think it's fair to assume that most of the people who turned up in those first 2 seasons where there for the novelty value rather than wanting to watch third tier rugby league. A couple more seasons where needed to measure the regular fanbase. The club hadn't proved it could support itself financially either. It was a huge gamble signing Hannay when still in the third tier, and most of the other aussies that are getting sent home while they were in National League 1. They (correctly, as it turns out) predicted that by signing these players, they'd show rapid improvement in the side's fortunes and that the RFL would rush them into Super League because they were desperate for a Welsh team, and the tv money could pay off whatever debts those signings got them into.

The season before Les Cats were allowed in Super League, they (as UTC) and Pia had reached the Challenge Cup 5th round and Toulouse reached the semis. So at least they'd proved there were decent French players out there. The Welsh national side is made up of Englishmen and Aussies with Welsh grandparents, and even now 6 Australians are getting deported, there's still only expected to be 4 Welsh born players in the Crusaders team at the weekend.

Widnes were royally screwed last year because the RFL wanted to expand into Wales. They had a good team, a new stadium, an owner who'd dragged them out of debt and balanced the books, and a good backroom staff. Unfortunately, with Cullen as coach they've gone backwards this year.
 
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