Roy’s spot at the top should not be in doubt

[SteveNZ]

I expect Roy to score one jammy good innings in one of the next two tests and for someone to never shut up about it despite it being a total fluke that in no way justifies the selection logic.

Ie Jason Roy?

He's very much akin to Aaron Finch or Martin Guptill. You get the sense they could have been a very decent Test player in the middle order, but there's plenty of players in that category. Jason Roy is not a Test opener's backside. I'm not sure he respects the position enough to be so. He seemed to me to bring a desire to swagger in and bat like KP as early as the Ireland Test, and wasn't good enough to do so.

 

[Woodster]

Seems that Roy's spot at the top was in fact doubtful. While he'd be best at 5 or 6 I certainly think he has a greater chance of scoring some significant runs now.

He's down to 4 for the next Test, so I guess the doubt existed.

This was kind of my point, the fact that a few inevitable failures will create such doubt and lead to him being dropped from the XI. I guess as he really hasn't convinced at the top, that a middle order spot is a fair compromise and in reality when you look at his game it is a position that seems better suited to him. Still think trying him at the top (and possibly have him returning there in the future) was the right option.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Still think trying him at the top (and possibly have him returning there in the future) was the right option.

It clearly wasn't, but judging from your posting on the topic, I doubt you'd change your opinion if he made 36 ducks in a row and averaged 1.5.

 

[Starfighter]

Ie Jason Roy?

The OP

 

[GIMH]

It clearly wasn't, but judging from your posting on the topic, I doubt you'd change your opinion if he made 36 ducks in a row and averaged 1.5.

He'd do well averaging 1.5 in that scenario

 

[TheJediBrah]

He'd do well averaging 1.5 in that scenario

actually per my calculations he'd be averaging 1.63 if he makes 36 ducks in a row

1.5 was just a guess and pretty close tbh

 

[GIMH]

actually per my calculations he'd be averaging 1.63 if he makes 36 ducks in a row

1.5 was just a guess and pretty close tbh

Ah you are factoring in what he's already done. Fair enough.

You win this round TJB

 

[marc71178]

Even a stopped clock is right occasionally

 

[TheJediBrah]

Even a stopped clock is right occasionally

twice a day to be precise

 

[Woodster]

It clearly wasn't, but judging from your posting on the topic, I doubt you'd change your opinion if he made 36 ducks in a row and averaged 1.5.

Clearly wasn’t? Ok, what was clearly the right selection in who to open the batting with, I’m intrigued?

 

[social]

Apart from not scoring any runs, what’s happened to Hameed?

Only saw him in India but looked a well organised player

Has he changed his technique?

 

[Woodster]

Apart from not scoring any runs, what’s happened to Hameed?

Only saw him in India but looked a well organised player

Has he changed his technique?

Couldn’t tell you with regards his technique but pretty sure he hasn’t made any dramatic changes in that respect. Looked a real promise but since getting injured his form and subsequently his confidence are shot.

Lancashire have opted to release him so hopefully a change of county and just a change of scene will benefit him in some way. Certainly not someone that should just be discarded but obviously a long way away from entering England reckoning again, despite our current woes.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Clearly wasn’t? Ok, what was clearly the right selection in who to open the batting with, I’m intrigued?

An inanimate plank of wood would probably suffice as an improvement

 

[Woodster]

An inanimate plank of wood would probably suffice as an improvement

Ah yes, quite the insightful reply. If you don’t know that’s fine, we don’t have all the answers.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Ah yes, quite the insightful reply. If you don’t know that’s fine, we don’t have all the answers.

very true. You are a wise man

 

[SteveNZ]

The only way he's ever going to score runs is on flat, dead tracks without any level of sideways movement.

His technique is absolutely abysmal. I've never seen a top order player who plays as early as he does. So that's writing him off as an opener, and I'm sure England have better options to bat 4 or thereabouts.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Can't see any reason for keeping him in the squad for The Oval. The Ashes are gone, so this must be the time to look at other options.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

He’s still hanging on. He batted at 5 in the first innings due to the night watchman at 3. Then in the second innings he batted at 4 but was in from the fifth ball of the first over.

 

[BoyBrumby]

****'s sake. No one can accuse Ed of being trigger happy. Except perhaps Moeen Ali. Or Chris Woakes.

Batsman's game, innit?

 

[Pothas]

They pretty much always give them a series now don't they. Apart from Pope who they gave two games.