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Road to the Ashes 2021/22
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Might just be due to him making headlines due to serious nature of injury but I can’t think of another player that gets sconed as oftenPucovski concussed again - hit in the head at training. Give it up, son. Got a real problem playing the short ball, obviously.
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The age of Ward is upon us.
Others have had an issue but either overcome it or disappear after repeated failures
He scores runs and gets hit
FBU
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Surely after a certain number of concussions it is deemed dangerous. I can't believe he is still playing.
Red_Ink_Squid
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Maybe, but perhaps he should have quit after he started getting them repeatedly. Having had 10 concussions by age 23 is in seriously dangerous territory. It seems he is a hugely talented cricketer but it's not worth him persisting with the sport if it's gonna cause him major, long term health damage. And this many concussions could do that. He could be a Bradman-level talent and I don't think it would be worth it for the kid.
It's a sad story but I don't want to see it get any sadder.
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This isn’t the case at all tbh. Across myriad sports.
Starfighter
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I can't personally think of any instance where someone's quit even amateur sport after getting one.
Shri
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James Anderson hits back at Tim Paine: 'Australia need to keep it respectable'
Exclusive: England fast bowler decries opposition captain's pre-series insults and hopes players can block out all the usual hype and noise
Shri
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James Anderson has called for Australians to keep the Ashes phoney war “respectable” and says that the insults can be “dangerous” for mental health.
Anderson was responding to rival captain Tim Paine, who was criticised for showing a lack of empathy when he said during protracted negotiations over quarantine protocols that “no one is forcing” England to tour. “If you don’t want to come, don’t come,” he said.
“It is dangerous to start talking like that, especially when we already have one player [Ben Stokes] missing because he is looking after his mental health,” Anderson said. “I get it that this is an Ashes series and we are going to have this bit of pantomime stuff away from the cricket, but let’s just keep it respectable.”
Anderson, a veteran of four Ashes tours and preparing for one last trip Down Under, has heard worse in the past but believes it is a reminder of what England can expect when they land in Australia. Four years ago, on the eve of the first Test in Brisbane, Nathan Lyon warned the Australia attack would “end careers” of England players.
“It is important everyone knows what to expect when we get there,” Anderson said. “There is always a lot of hype and noise around the Ashes in the build-up to it. Making everyone aware of that and having ways of blocking it out are important.
Not being able to put saliva on the ball has changed the are of swing bowling but at least in the Australian heat there should not be a shortage of sweat
“It is designed to distract us. There are always little things that crop up. That is inevitable but it is important we try to focus as much as we can on the cricket. That is our job. Our job is not really to get involved in any off-field war of words. We have to focus on our jobs on the field and perform for our country.”
The prospect of Stokes donning his superhero cape and flying in for England’s Ashes campaign moved a step closer this week when he had his first net since July. Those close to him say he is feeling much better in himself thanks to the sharp improvement in the condition of his broken left index finger following a second operation last week.
It would lift the whole tour if Stokes was to make a comeback. The Test specialists leave for Australia on Nov 4, more than a month before the first Test, but England insist they are not pressurising Stokes.
Assessing the state of his finger is relatively straightforward. It will be judging whether he is ready mentally for the challenge and scrutiny of an Ashes tour that will be harder and is the most important decision for the England medical staff.
“It was really exciting to see him in the nets. He obviously feels he is getting somewhere near to coming back, which is fantastic,” Anderson said.
“Chris Silverwood said he is not going to rush him back and it is the same from the players’ point of view as well. We will be there to support him and whenever he is ready we will welcome him back with open arms.
“We saw in 2019 he is a match-winner with bat or ball and even in the field. He can turn matches by himself and to have that special gift makes a massive difference to us. It would also have an effect on Australia when they see him in our team. It just makes them think slightly differently and helps balance our side. Whenever he is ready to come back he would make an amazing difference.”
Anderson was the first senior England player to make himself available for the Ashes tour. During the summer, his family decided they would not be joining him in Australia, making the decision easier, but he was still a full part of the negotiations over quarantine conditions.
Anderson believes it would “make sense” for the England and Wales Cricket Board to contact Cricket Australia about rearranging the Ashes schedule to start in New South Wales after the state government announced on Friday it would be dropping hotel quarantine for all overseas arrivals from Nov 1.
England have agreed to a soft quarantine at a golf resort in Gold Coast, Queensland, before the first Test at the Gabba. Moving to New South Wales would give the players more freedom but Australia want to start at the Gabba, where England have not won since 1986-87.
“As with the stuff already, there have been discussions and I’m sure this will be something that will be brought up between ECB and Cricket Australia as well,” Anderson said. “I’m sure it is common sense to be talking about something like that but it is something way out of players’ hands.”
Anderson was at Emirates Old Trafford on Friday for Global Handwashing Day with England sponsors Lifebuoy. One thing that has changed for Anderson is not putting saliva on the ball, and there is no indication of when this might change. “It does make a difference in England, because we don’t sweat as much, but that will not be a problem in Australia,” he said.
The lack of pace in England’s Ashes squad is a rerun of previous tours, but Anderson has never bought into the idea that speed is everything in Australia.
“It gets talked about all the time that you need this X-factor in Australia,” he said. “You look at what we had in 2010-11 and what teams that have won there since have done and it is about hitting areas, being consistent, patient and having enough skill to get wickets on flat pitches, and I think we have got that.
“You can’t just pick fast bowlers because you think you need fast bowlers. They have got to be good enough. We have definitely got enough to take 20 wickets in each Test match and that is what we hopefully will be doing.”
Anderson was responding to rival captain Tim Paine, who was criticised for showing a lack of empathy when he said during protracted negotiations over quarantine protocols that “no one is forcing” England to tour. “If you don’t want to come, don’t come,” he said.
“It is dangerous to start talking like that, especially when we already have one player [Ben Stokes] missing because he is looking after his mental health,” Anderson said. “I get it that this is an Ashes series and we are going to have this bit of pantomime stuff away from the cricket, but let’s just keep it respectable.”
Anderson, a veteran of four Ashes tours and preparing for one last trip Down Under, has heard worse in the past but believes it is a reminder of what England can expect when they land in Australia. Four years ago, on the eve of the first Test in Brisbane, Nathan Lyon warned the Australia attack would “end careers” of England players.
“It is important everyone knows what to expect when we get there,” Anderson said. “There is always a lot of hype and noise around the Ashes in the build-up to it. Making everyone aware of that and having ways of blocking it out are important.
Not being able to put saliva on the ball has changed the are of swing bowling but at least in the Australian heat there should not be a shortage of sweat
“It is designed to distract us. There are always little things that crop up. That is inevitable but it is important we try to focus as much as we can on the cricket. That is our job. Our job is not really to get involved in any off-field war of words. We have to focus on our jobs on the field and perform for our country.”
The prospect of Stokes donning his superhero cape and flying in for England’s Ashes campaign moved a step closer this week when he had his first net since July. Those close to him say he is feeling much better in himself thanks to the sharp improvement in the condition of his broken left index finger following a second operation last week.
It would lift the whole tour if Stokes was to make a comeback. The Test specialists leave for Australia on Nov 4, more than a month before the first Test, but England insist they are not pressurising Stokes.
Assessing the state of his finger is relatively straightforward. It will be judging whether he is ready mentally for the challenge and scrutiny of an Ashes tour that will be harder and is the most important decision for the England medical staff.
“It was really exciting to see him in the nets. He obviously feels he is getting somewhere near to coming back, which is fantastic,” Anderson said.
“Chris Silverwood said he is not going to rush him back and it is the same from the players’ point of view as well. We will be there to support him and whenever he is ready we will welcome him back with open arms.
“We saw in 2019 he is a match-winner with bat or ball and even in the field. He can turn matches by himself and to have that special gift makes a massive difference to us. It would also have an effect on Australia when they see him in our team. It just makes them think slightly differently and helps balance our side. Whenever he is ready to come back he would make an amazing difference.”
Anderson was the first senior England player to make himself available for the Ashes tour. During the summer, his family decided they would not be joining him in Australia, making the decision easier, but he was still a full part of the negotiations over quarantine conditions.
Anderson believes it would “make sense” for the England and Wales Cricket Board to contact Cricket Australia about rearranging the Ashes schedule to start in New South Wales after the state government announced on Friday it would be dropping hotel quarantine for all overseas arrivals from Nov 1.
England have agreed to a soft quarantine at a golf resort in Gold Coast, Queensland, before the first Test at the Gabba. Moving to New South Wales would give the players more freedom but Australia want to start at the Gabba, where England have not won since 1986-87.
“As with the stuff already, there have been discussions and I’m sure this will be something that will be brought up between ECB and Cricket Australia as well,” Anderson said. “I’m sure it is common sense to be talking about something like that but it is something way out of players’ hands.”
Anderson was at Emirates Old Trafford on Friday for Global Handwashing Day with England sponsors Lifebuoy. One thing that has changed for Anderson is not putting saliva on the ball, and there is no indication of when this might change. “It does make a difference in England, because we don’t sweat as much, but that will not be a problem in Australia,” he said.
The lack of pace in England’s Ashes squad is a rerun of previous tours, but Anderson has never bought into the idea that speed is everything in Australia.
“It gets talked about all the time that you need this X-factor in Australia,” he said. “You look at what we had in 2010-11 and what teams that have won there since have done and it is about hitting areas, being consistent, patient and having enough skill to get wickets on flat pitches, and I think we have got that.
“You can’t just pick fast bowlers because you think you need fast bowlers. They have got to be good enough. We have definitely got enough to take 20 wickets in each Test match and that is what we hopefully will be doing.”
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Exactly. Hampster made runs down at 4/5 in county and it was the first time he's ever looked slightly comfortable in more trying conditions, if he makes the test team it should be at 6, we know he's not good enough to face higher quality attacks or difficult condition's opening, while ussie has played 2 of the greatest test knocks in the past 20 years of australian cricket opening the batting, averages an obscene amount there and actually has his form back.
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I'd go so far to say that if the Pillow was picked to open it would basically lock in 5-0 to Aus barring weather intervening (which it will). It's not even a choice you'd have to consciously make if you're on the level. If Langer overlooks him he should be rissoled immediately*.
*ignoring the fact he should have been rissoled already.
*ignoring the fact he should have been rissoled already.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Those motivational quotes aren't gonna write themselves in the team room though.
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see the problem with picking with Usman is that I've said that he should have been opening since the fourth Ashes test of 2019 and anyone who thinks otherwise is a ****ing idiot....so if they do pick him I then have to worry about him failing in a couple of games to start off with (an entirely reasonable proposition)
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Sandra Sully in with the late news