If anyone seriously thinks they've eliminated ball-tampering they're kidding themselves as much as anyone who thinks they've eliminated match-fixing or terrorism.rabbit said:I want to discuss whether ball tampering still exists till now. I have seen wasim akram, waqar, shoaib,and many pakistanis along with ganguly scratching the ball. but recently hvent seen any one do that.
does it still exist
That's an awesome amount of swing with a 4 piece ball! (Not saying it can't be done by the way, just that it's very impressive!) Fleming used to swing in considerably at times too, just not at the same pace (that's Damien not Stephen, haha - a blast from the past).Bouncer said:firstly i dont know what u r asking, are u asking if ball tamering still exists or reverse swing?......if it was about reverse swing, then just look at my avtar....
and it happened at Eden gardens calcutta during the asian test championshipSudeep said:That definately is Shoaib Akhtar bowling. And if I'm not wrong, the ball played in the avatar was followed by another yorker, which found Sachin's stumps...
Bouncer said:if it was about reverse swing, then just look at my avtar....
there is nothing greater or exciting then this sort of bowling....those deliveries that Akhtar bowled to get rid of Dravid and Sachin at Eden Gardens in 1999. It just blows your mind away.biased indian said:and it happened at Eden gardens calcutta during the asian test championship
Doesn't have to be reverse-swing to be exciting.aussie_beater said:there is nothing greater or exciting then this sort of bowling....those deliveries that Akhtar bowled to get rid of Dravid and Sachin at Eden Gardens in 1999. It just blows your mind away.
Any swing is created by applying any form of polish - saliva and rub, sweat and rub, etc. You can use anything, long as it's "natural substance" (but that actually means human-produced substance, given that there's nothing unnatural about dust).Son Of Coco said:That's an awesome amount of swing with a 4 piece ball! (Not saying it can't be done by the way, just that it's very impressive!) Fleming used to swing in considerably at times too, just not at the same pace (that's Damien not Stephen, haha - a blast from the past).
Reverse swing is created by applying saliva to the shiny side of the ball late in the innings isn't it? At least that was what I was taught.
agreed. inswinging yorkers are equally awesome, but the thrill about very well directed and extremely fast reverse swing of the Akhtar variety(when he manages to bowl one), is that the batsman is totally caught unawares and in most cases doesn't have a clue.In that Avatar, look at the batsman(most likely Rahul Dravid)....he is totally clueless.Not saying that a very well directed fast inswinging yorker cannot bring about a similar look on a batsman's face, but that look is like "damn that was fast" .... and in the reverse swing case its like "damn ! what the &*^% was that"Richard said:Doesn't have to be reverse-swing to be exciting.
Inswinging Yorkers, along with huge off-breaks, are about the most thrilling dismissal around.
Though I'll always like the perfectly-pitched away-swingers, whether they flick the edge or the off-stump.
bulls eye !aussie_beater said:agreed. inswinging yorkers are equally awesome, but the thrill about very well directed and extremely fast reverse swing of the Akhtar variety(when he manages to bowl one), is that the batsman is totally caught unawares and in most cases doesn't have a clue.In that Avatar, look at the batsman(most likely Rahul Dravid)....he is totally clueless.Not saying that a very well directed fast inswinging yorker cannot bring about a similar look on a batsman's face, but that look is like "damn that was fast" .... and in the reverse swing case its like "damn ! what the &*^% was that"