Razzak banned

[Smudge]

I didn't like the look of it here and I'm glad he's been pulled up.

 

[Top_Cat]

Shocked it's taken this long.

 

[Polo23]

I thought it was always blatant he was a chucker? A lot of people I know (including myself) have been calling him a chucker for years.

Great to see something done about it.

 

[Jonty Lathwal]

Banning is not right ,i think....they should check his action when the team is not playing..

 

[Athlai]

Banning is not right ,i think....they should check his action when the team is not playing..

The ban ends when he fixes his action.

 

[Jonty Lathwal]

The ban ends when he fixes his action.

I think it should not be called a "ban" before checking the action properly....

 

[Athlai]

They have checked the action properly. That is why he's banned.

 

[Jonty Lathwal]

They have checked the action properly. That is why he's banned.

oh........thanks for the info.....

 

[Precambrian]

The analysis showed that the straightening was between 22 and 28 degrees (average 25 degrees) and, for his quicker ball, between 22 and 28 degrees also (average 24 degrees). This is pitiful, given that the maximum permissible is 15%. How has anyone (his coaches, his management, the ICC) allowed him to play for so long without this being addressed?

Terrible really. One wonders what the local coach and selectors were thinking, unless they made the selection on the basis of looking at scorecards.

 

[Athlai]

Are 15% and degree bends like-terms though? Maybe 25 degrees would be more like 18% or something not sure how it works but I think Rich said something to that effect.

 

[G.I.Joe]

If I'm not mistaken, the appropriate term here should have been 'suspended'.

 

[zaremba]

Are 15% and degree bends like-terms though? Maybe 25 degrees would be more like 18% or something not sure how it works but I think Rich said something to that effect.

Yes there's nothing wrong with having a bent arm, the problem is when you straighten a bent arm, and it's the degree of straightening that matters.

The cricinfo report talks about him "bending" his arm by 22-28%, but I think they're confused and are trying to talk about straightening / extension instead of bending.

 

[Richard]

Yup, use of bad terminology in the throwing matter is common and always misleading.

There is nothing illegal about a bent (ie, not at 180deg - and that's difficult anyway, I myself can't straighten my elbow to that straight, I think it's probably 175 or so at the straightest I can get it) elbow. However, it would be extremely difficult to bowl with a bent elbow (say, of 150deg) and not exceed the straightening limits, methinks. If not impossible.

 

[zaremba]

Yup, use of bad terminology in the throwing matter is common and always misleading.

There is nothing illegal about a bent (ie, not at 180deg - and that's difficult anyway, I myself can't straighten my elbow to that straight, I think it's probably 175 or so at the straightest I can get it) elbow. However, it would be extremely difficult to bowl with a bent elbow (say, to 150deg) and not exceed the straightening limits, methinks. If not impossible.

Unless you've got some kind of medical condition - eg Chandrasekhar?? - or a truly weird action - eg Paul Adams

 

[Jakester1288]

Has anyone got a link to a video of him bowling, so I can have a look at him bowling. I don't think I have ever seen him.

And I can't see him back on the international scene for quite a while, if ever, now he has to remodel his action.

 

[Richard]

Unless you've got some kind of medical condition - eg Chandrasekhar?? - or a truly weird action - eg Paul Adams

Adams has always bamboozled me, and I've never even tried looking closely at his elbow for fear of hypnosis. Chandra, though, I don't actually remember anyone talking of his elbow not being straight. IIRR, he had six fingers and he had a withered (and therefore unnaturally fast-rotating) bowling-arm from polio as a child, but I think that was it?

 

[Matt79]

can't say I've ever heard a reference to Lindwall as a chucker until this thread. A dragger, yes, but chucker? Never.

 

[Richard]

I believe zaremba posted the video which causes him to refer to such a thing a while back. Can't find the post, but I'm sure he'd be able to without difficulty, or else repost the attachment.

 

[zaremba]

can't say I've ever heard a reference to Lindwall as a chucker until this thread. A dragger, yes, but chucker? Never.

I'd never heard it either. Then I saw a clip of him bowling which made my hair stand on end. For some reason I have trouble posting the clip here so I'll give you the address. The library of clips is at...***************************************. You will then need to select the Lindwall clip.

15 degrees anyone?

 

[Matt79]

link was blocked, can you spell it out?