Ravindra Jadeja vs Matthew Hayden

[PlayerComparisons]

Two all conditions players

 

[Jumno]

I'd go for Jadeja.

 

[howitzer]

Tricky. Erring Hayden though.

 

[honestbharani]

Two CSK stalwarts

Yep

 

[subshakerz]

Hayden easily. A proper great. Jadeja hasn't played enough.

 

[kyear2]

Attacking left handed opening batsman who averaged over 50 and was an excellent slip and gully fielder.

Him.

 

[subshakerz]

Attacking left handed opening batsman who averaged over 50 and was an excellent slip and gully fielder.

Him.

We are agreeing on most things it seems.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Hayden easily. A proper great. Jadeja hasn't played enough.

What if Jadeja had played 100 tests with the same record?

 

[kyear2]

What if Jadeja had played 100 tests with the same record?

What if Sobers bowled less, batted more at 4 and averaged 70?

 

[PlayerComparisons]

What if Sobers bowled less, batted more at 4 and averaged 70?

Then he’d be the second greatest batsman of all time IMO

 

[Prince EWS]

What if Sobers bowled less, batted more at 4 and averaged 70?

What if Graeme Smith was an Australian #4 instead of a South African opener and averaged 70?

 

[kyear2]

What if Graeme Smith was an Australian #4 instead of a South African opener and averaged 70?

My point is that it doesn't matter. We can only go on what did

 

[PlayerComparisons]

What if Graeme Smith was an Australian #4 instead of a South African opener and averaged 70?

What do you think Kallis would average if he played for Australia?

 

[Prince EWS]

What do you think Kallis would average if he played for Australia?

Probably about the same as he actually did tbh. Would have had a different role, and he didn't proportionally struggle with his home conditions like Smith did (nor did he have to open in them).

 

[Prince EWS]

My point is that it doesn't matter. We can only go on what did

Haha yeah I know you were basically just doing a cricketing version of 'if my aunty had balls' but I wanted to get my Godly Graeme Smith plug in.

 

[subshakerz]

What if Jadeja had played 100 tests with the same record?

Still no, because he has a conspicuous lack of impact away. If he plays until 100, needs at least 1-2 more impact series in SENA. As it is, he has played only 21 tests out of 69 in SENA.

He is one of the best home players of all-time, but the fact that he is selected so much in his preferred conditions has obscured his record and made him seem better than he really is.

The difference I have between Jadeja defenders and others is that I view his drop down in quality as an ATG-level home player to a support player in SENA far more harshly than they do.

 

[Coronis]

My point is that it doesn't matter. We can only go on what did

What if Barry Richards played 4 tests? oh wait…

 

[_00_deathscar]

Tricky. Erring Hayden though.

Erling Haaland isn’t an option

 

[ankitj]

Still no, because he has a conspicuous lack of impact away. If he plays until 100, needs at least 1-2 more impact series in SENA. As it is, he has played only 21 tests out of 69 in SENA.

He is one of the best home players of all-time, but the fact that he is selected so much in his preferred conditions has obscured his record and made him seem better than he really is.

The difference I have between Jadeja defenders and others is that I view his drop down in quality as an ATG-level home player to a support player in SENA far more harshly than they do.

Your commitment to "exposing" Jadeja and Ashwin is commendable.

 

[kyear2]

What if Barry Richards played 4 tests? oh wait…

The comment I made was, if he played 30 tests he would probably be a lock. But he isn't........
I never included him based on projection. But why let facts get in the way