Rank them as odi batsmen : Viv. Sachin. Kohli

[sayon basak]

source for that?

 

[Johan]

not sure why that matters, though he did do in 70s what Kohli and Sachin never could, match winning performance in the final.

 

[Johan]

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That's just Gavaskar being Gavaskar and giving up at the idea of chasing 335

 

[Johan]

always remember

 

[sayon basak]

That's just Gavaskar being Gavaskar and giving up at the idea of chasing 335

So basically, not knowing what to do.

 

[DrWolverine]

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Gavaskar redeemed himself.

 

[Johan]

So basically, not knowing what to do.

by that logic, nobody actually ever knew how to play ODI because even as late as late 90s they played ODIs like this.

 

[sayon basak]

by that logic, nobody actually ever knew how to play ODI because even as late as late 90s they played ODIs like this.
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Well, That English team didn't have Akram and Saqlain I guess.

 

[sayon basak]

Gavaskar redeemed himself.

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Meh bowling attack.

 

[DrWolverine]

Meh bowling attack.

 

[Johan]

Well, That English team didn't have Akram and Saqlain I guess.

Dravid also has 32 off of 73 against Kenya in 2003 world cup lol, It's just Dravid, Gavaskar and even someone as late as Imam Ul Haq are limited batters so don't play fast, and Gavaskar happened to have a defeatist mindset on top.

like, in the same 36* match, Amiss smashed a 137 at 90+ sr and Chris Old smashed a classic finisher knock of 50 off of 30, clearly they knew how to play, It's just Gavaskar being the outlier, not the norm.

 

[h_hurricane]

Sachin was more tested by great bowlers but Viv was so far ahead of his contemporaries that this isn't close.

Sachin vs Kohli vs ABD close for 2nd position. For now, I am going with Sachin > Kohli. If Kohli finishes his career better, he will be ahead imo.

 

[DrWolverine]

The 1990s was the first bull run for scoring rates and the second bull run happened in 2010s decade

 

[Johan]

The chart is so low for Viv's era, truly Hobbs-esque

 

[DrWolverine]

The chart is so low for Viv's era, truly Hobbs-esque

Hobbs = Richards
Sachin = Sachin
Bradman = No one

 

[sayon basak]

ODI overall strike rates:-
1971-1979:- 65.5
1980-1989:- 73
1990-1999:- 76.33
2000-2009:- 81.5
2010-2019:- 87.33

Viv's strike rate was 90+ in an era where others were striking at 68/69. So, it wouldn't be a stretch to say that Viv knew exactly what to do in an era when others didn't.

 

[Johan]

People knew what to do, they had people like Viv/Kapil/Abbas to emulate, they just weren't able to do it because it was a bowler dominated era.

 

[Johan]

Hobbs = Richards
Sachin = Sachin
Bradman = No one

well, if being Bradman entails being twice as good as everyone else, then No one can be him. but if being Bradman entails being the GOAT in your format beyond the scope of any reasonable contention, Viv surely checks that.

 

[DrWolverine]

It was a new format. The cricketers took some time to adjust whereas Viv being a naturally aggressive batsman flourished.

In any other era he would have been arguably the best one day batsman as well but would not have been that special.

 

[Johan]

I wish there was a basis for something like that beyond assumptions, I mean, it's basically the same as calling every man in 70s a clown as they couldn't figure out batting aggressively would help in a 60 over game.