Rahul Dravid vs Javed Miandad vs Ken Barrington

[sayon basak]

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Date fixed.

 

[Johan]

@Coronis just to be sure, you're aware on the context of the timeframe you pointed out right?

 

[Coronis]

@Coronis just to be sure, you're aware on the context of the timeframe you pointed out right?

Yes

 

[Johan]

Yes

what's the context

 

[Coronis]

what's the context

Er my nee

 

[Johan]

Er my nee

accurate enough, he played 1950-51 Ashes carrying an Injury.

 

[Johan]

Date fixed.

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[Coronis]

accurate enough, he played 1950-51 Ashes carrying an Injury.

Like Warne in India


At least when Shamar faked an injury he had the guts to still perform

 

[sayon basak]

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Hm inferior.

 

[Johan]

Like Warne in India

Warne had a broken toenail, Compton had an inflammed knee which made the media discuss if he'll ever even play Cricket again.

two completely different levels of injuries.

Henceforth, I demand the 1950-51 Ashes Compton performance is erased etc.

 

[Coronis]

Warne had a broken toenail, Compton had an inflammed knee which made the media discuss if he'll ever even play Cricket again.

I mean this reminds me of what I brought up in the Marshall thread.

1950-51 Ashes tour
4 tests 8 innings 53 @ 7.57
8 tour matches 13 innings 829 @ 92.11 4 tons 2 fifties

Amazing how it only flared up during the tests.

Note: This included tons against all the bowlers who played in the tests, except Lindwall, he only scored a 92 and 34* against him and a baby Davidson and Benaud.

 

[Johan]

I mean this reminds me of what I brought up in the Marshall thread.

1950-51 Ashes tour
4 tests 8 innings 53 @ 7.57
8 tour matches 13 innings 829 @ 92.11 4 tons 2 fifties

Amazing how it only flared up during the tests.

If you look into these runs, you'd find out he managed to score against Keith Schmidt, Keith Dollery, Doug Ring, Alan Walker, Jack Laver etc, all his quality runs came against nobodies with no test career so clearly not test standard, and his quality FC runs are before the first match where the knee issue was reported.

 

[Coronis]

If you look into these runs, you'd find out he managed to score against Keith Schmidt, Keith Dollery, Doug Ring, Alan Walker, Jack Laver etc, all his quality runs came against nobodies with no test career so clearly not test standard, and his quality FC runs are before the first match where the knee issue was reported.

Read the edit. And he scored 115 against Miller after the first test lol and in fact his knee was first reported as swelling up on the boat ride over lol. Conveniently intermittent for him.

 

[Johan]

Read the edit. And he scored 115 against Miller after the first test lol

Yeah but most of those were before the first test, his issues weren't reported until then iirc, or atleast he wasn't dropped, plus Miller bowled 11 out of the 117 overs in the hundred you're mentioning and we both know about his FC workload were Doug Ring, Geff Noblet and Alan Walker. He was also only dropped after the first test for the second test.

>guy is making tons of runs and averages 60 going into the series.
>fluid developes in his knee
>bam, has the worst series of his career by a huge margin.

idk, seems pretty clear cut to me on what happened.

 

[Coronis]

Yeah but most of those were before the first test, his issues weren't reported until then iirc, or atleast he wasn't dropped, plus Miller bowled 11 out of the 117 overs in the hundred you're mentioning and we both know about his FC workload were Doug Ring, Geff Noblet and Alan Walker. He was also only dropped after the first test for the second test.

idk, seems pretty clear cut to me on what happened.

idk seems like his knee was fine in the lead up to the first test and during.

“His famously damaged knee had swollen up after making another century – 115 vs an Australian XI” - first mention I can find after the boat story

“Denis Compton was fit again and replaced the ailing John Dewes, but Gilbert Parkhouse stayed in the team thanks to his fighting 28 at Melbourne and 92 against New South Wales. Australia kept the same team from the Second Test”

Just seems like an excuse like Sachin’s elbow aye

 

[Johan]

idk seems like his knee was fine in the lead up to the first test and during.

“His famously damaged knee had swollen up after making another century – 115 vs an Australian XI” - first mention I can find after the boat story

“Denis Compton was fit again and replaced the ailing John Dewes, but Gilbert Parkhouse stayed in the team thanks to his fighting 28 at Melbourne and 92 against New South Wales. Australia kept the same team from the Second Test”

Just seems like an excuse like Sachin’s elbow aye

Not really, even months prior to it there were serious concerns about his knee and if he will ever be able to play Cricket properly again, this is from months before during the boat story.

BLOW TO ENGLISH CRICKET.
The "Daily Mall's" writer, Alex Bannister, commenting on the news of Compton's knee injury, says:
"It ts the saddest blow English Cricket has had to suffer in many years. It means that England's chances of regaining the Ashes from Australia are seriously weak-ened If Compton's Test career ls finished. It is as if Hobbs had been cast off In his prime, or Bradman had been deprived of the last 10 Years of his cricket life."

Sachin's elbow apparently lasted 5 years, for Compton's knee it's one series, I think a better analogy would be Hammond after the war, where he was racking up thousands of runs in first class but sucking in tests anyway.

 

[capt_Luffy]

I commend your ability to hate, it truly surpasses my own.

but Here's another fun stat

Kohli comeback arc
0 matches, 0 @ 00.0, 0 tons 0 fifties

Compton Feb 1954 - Dec 1956
20 matches, 1,636 @ 60.6, 3 tons 9 fifties.

etc. Kohli fans would die for this, including @capt_Luffy

I am no fan of Kohli's

 

[Coronis]

BLOW TO ENGLISH CRICKET.
The "Daily Mall's" writer, Alex Bannister, commenting on the news of Compton's knee injury, says:
"It ts the saddest blow English Cricket has had to suffer in many years. It means that England's chances of regaining the Ashes from Australia are seriously weak-ened If Compton's Test career ls finished. It is as if Hobbs had been cast off In his prime, or Bradman had been deprived of the last 10 Years of his cricket life."

Meh if it was that big a problem he shouldn’t/wouldn’t have played, like in the second test.

Also wonderful example of media sensationalism that

tbf you could argue both those things actually partially occurred with the war lol.

 

[Johan]

Meh if it was that big a problem he shouldn’t/wouldn’t have played, like in the second test.

Also wonderful example of media sensationalism that

some men are stubborn (I'd know), one of the dudes making 1, 9, 8, 5 was probably the enabler, he probably shouldn't have played though. but at the end, between unproven fodder meatshield (Dewes) and a proven fodder meatshield (an injured Compton), most teams would play the latter. Other than that one series, he was quite a bit ahead of Kohli of last 5 years

also Yeah lol, but tbf, you wanna say something that sounds cool.

Also, lmao very true, Hobbs and Bradman DID lose years.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Dravid > Miandad > Barrington

Used to rate Barrington the highest but his longevity is pretty poor compared to other two