Quality control draft 2.0

[stephen]

Ataraxia almost always picks in the early morning. I will have to pick after him since our categories line up.

 

[ataraxia]

I'll have Arthur Morris (44 to 48) and Neil Harvey (48 to 52).

 

[ataraxia]

1) Arthur Morris /
2) Roy Fredericks /
3) Brian Lara /
4) Neil Harvey /
5) Warwick Armstrong* / o
6) Chris Cairns o /
7)
8) Wasim Akram o /
9) Anil Kumble o
10)
11) Glenn McGrath o

Not the best, especially given my last two picks are from the two hardest categories.

@stephen

 

[stephen]

I'll take Shivnarine Chanderpaul.

Herb Sutcliffe
.
.
Mark Waugh
Shivnarine Chanderpaul
Shakib Al Hasan
Jeff Dujon
Shaun Pollock
Mitchell Johnson
Malcolm Marshall
Harbhajan Singh

 

[stephen]

By the way, I personally think Chanderpaul is criminally underrated in drafts on here.

 

[JOJOXI]

By the way, I personally think Chanderpaul is criminally underrated in drafts on here.

Who would you say he's better than and who would you say he's worse than in the same ballpark of ability as him just so I know how highly you rate him?

I personally rate him quite highly and racked up impressive numbers despite having the pressure of carrying a fragile batting lineup but that is probably influenced by seeing West Indies cricket quite a bit and me being relatively young so my first memories of seeing West Indies test cricket centre around him.

 

[stephen]

Well, no offense to ataraxia but I think he's better than Harvey. I think he's better than Hussey as well. He's just below the Waugh/Border tier IMO.

But in general I tend to see him go quite late in drafts and I think he's better than that.

 

[JOJOXI]

Well, no offense to ataraxia but I think he's better than Harvey. I think he's better than Hussey as well. He's just below the Waugh/Border tier IMO.

But in general I tend to see him go quite late in drafts and I think he's better than that.

Harder to judge players you haven't seen (Harvey) but I'd probably say that is fair. I guess some drafts perhaps influenced by nationality limits but he does have a very impressive record, done well in most countries and may have an even slightly better record if he had other class batsman to bat around.

Perhaps unfairly I'd probably rate Border/Waugh quite a bit higher subconsciously but I mean outside the top part of the ATGs - and most of them end up batting at 3 or 4 not many have been as good as him. In some ways the fact he wasn't the greatest middle order batsman aesthetically endears him to me more. Hopefully with time his perception will grow as guess he is recently retired and whilst I rate Chanderpaul over Cook I think Cook too is often underrated with both recently retired. What might play against Chanderpaul is he was famed for grit, not dissimilar to Cook whereas someone like a Sangakarra (and this isn't a criticism of him) for example has flowing cover drives to be remembered by.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Next few picks:

@trundler
@Michaelf7777777
@srbhkshk
@kingkallis

 

[mr_mister]

I think some people on here dislike Chanderpaul for his "red inker" style whether that's fair or not I don't know

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Re Chanderpaul it depends what batting position you need to cover. If going for a 5/6 I'd definitely rank him highly, but wouldn't consider him if I needed a 3/4. As Ataraxia already had Armstrong and Cairns at 5 and 6 I think Neil Harvey or other currently unselected players are better options.

 

[ataraxia]

I needed a 3/4, admittedly forgot about Chanderpaul but Harvey is generally considered to be up there with Waugh by CW.

 

[trundler]

Tom Hayward 32-36

Hayward
Boycott
-
Hill
Faulkner
De Villiers+
-
Vettori
Statham
Steyn
McDermott

 

[mr_mister]

Surprised MacLaren went so many rounds before Hayward

Same opening role, same era, similar test records but Hayward with a far superior FC record therefore probably the better bat

 

[Michaelf7777777]

George Lohmann (Bowl <23) will be my next selection please

Charter 77 so Far

Barry Richards (Bat >52)
John Wright (Bat 36-40)
Viv Richards (*) (Bat 48-52)
John R. Reid (Bat 32-36)
Les Ames (+) (Bat 40-44)
Wilfred Rhodes (Bat <32)
George Lohmann (Bowl <23)
Peter Pollock (Bowl 23-27)
Ted McDonald (Bowl >31)

 

[trundler]

Surprised MacLaren went so many rounds before Hayward

Same opening role, same era, similar test records but Hayward with a far superior FC record therefore probably the better bat

Quite like the fact that I've got 255 FC tons at the top of the order. Would've preferred Shrewsbury but I'll take him.

 

[ankitj]

@srbhkshk next

 

[srbhkshk]

Trent Boult (27-31)


Sunil Gavaskar
Vinoo Mankad
-
Graeme Pollock
-
Ben Stokes
Adam Gilchrist +
Ravindra Jadeja
Pat Cummins
Trent Boult
Nathan Lyon

 

[ankitj]

@kingkallis next

 

[kingkallis]

Ian Healy to keep wicket and bat at No.7.

CricZo XI

Len Hutton /
Graham Gooch /
Frank Worrell / o (c)
Martin Crowe /
-
Ian Botham / o
Ian Healy + /
-
Dennis Lillee o
Bill O'Reilly o
Jeff Thomson o