Predict World Cup Semi Finalist

[Turbinator]

Say what? Their seamers are rubbish. Their spinner(s) would be tough to get away obviously..

Going by recent times, hell no.

Yup going be recent times, they ain't so bad. I mean Zaheer is in the form of his life, and Munaf and Agarkar have been bowling quite well as well.

 

[IndianByHeart]

Say what? Their seamers are rubbish. Their spinner(s) would be tough to get away obviously..

Going by recent form, Zaheer Khan & a fit Munaf patel are anything but rubbish.

 

[Salamuddin]

I don't really think England's ODI seam attack is all that much better than INdia's.

You have Munaf Patel who I rate equivalent of Flintoff in trems of sustained accuracy.

Agarkar and Anderson are probably on par.

I don't really rate Zaheer very highly but I don't think PLunkett's better.

Sreesanth hasn't been able to replicate his test success in ODI cricket but he does look better than Mahmood.

Lewis is probably better than an out of form Pathan.

So overall fairly even I'd say.If Pathan can pick his bowling up, the Indians may edge ahead.

 

[PakPowered]

Say what? Their seamers are rubbish. Their spinner(s) would be tough to get away obviously..

They used to be rubbish, but the current batch is not all that bad.I would say they are very capable, the only guy that is rubbish is Irfan Pathan

 

[PakPowered]

I would say that the semi finalist would be SA, NZ, Aus and SL.

Final would probably be between SA and NZ.

 

[Somerset]

I have maintained for a while that Australia, Sri Lanka and South Africa will make the semis for a while so will stick with them - and I'll be patriotic and use the Chappell-Hadlee series result to back New Zealand.

 

[MoxPearl]

I would say that the semi finalist would be SA, NZ, Aus and SL.

Same here

 

[Scaly piscine]

I don't really think England's ODI seam attack is all that much better than INdia's.

You have Munaf Patel who I rate equivalent of Flintoff in trems of sustained accuracy.

Agarkar and Anderson are probably on par.

I don't really rate Zaheer very highly but I don't think PLunkett's better.

Sreesanth hasn't been able to replicate his test success in ODI cricket but he does look better than Mahmood.

Lewis is probably better than an out of form Pathan.

So overall fairly even I'd say.If Pathan can pick his bowling up, the Indians may edge ahead.

Agarkar on a par with Anderson?!?

Mahmood won't (or shouldn't) play. Flintoff, Plunkett and Anderson is the likely seam bowling attack and is far better than anything India can muster - especially when you think about the epic proportions of how bad India's seam bowling has been in ODI finals.

 

[Evermind]

Agarkar on a par with Anderson?!?

Mahmood won't (or shouldn't) play. Flintoff, Plunkett and Anderson is the likely seam bowling attack and is far better than anything India can muster - especially when you think about the epic proportions of how bad India's seam bowling has been in ODI finals.

Though I agree that India are chokers and do not have the mental strength to take the cup, there isn't much between Anderson and Agarkar TBH:

Anderson 57 471.4 2280 86 4/25 4/27 26.51 4.83 32.9 6 0
Agarkar 180 1483.4 7494 272 6/42 5/44 27.55 5.05 32.7 9 2

 

[Scaly piscine]

Better average and better ER, plus Agarkar's stats have always flattered because he tends to perform when a game is over as a contest and has lots of cheap wickets against teams like Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.

 

[GIMH]

I don't really think England's ODI seam attack is all that much better than INdia's.

You have Munaf Patel who I rate equivalent of Flintoff in trems of sustained accuracy.

Agarkar and Anderson are probably on par.

I don't really rate Zaheer very highly but I don't think PLunkett's better.

Sreesanth hasn't been able to replicate his test success in ODI cricket but he does look better than Mahmood.

Lewis is probably better than an out of form Pathan.

So overall fairly even I'd say.If Pathan can pick his bowling up, the Indians may edge ahead.

My reputation as being blindly English not withstanding, I can't agree with you. England's attack has fallen together quite nicely (if luckily) and I actually think it's one of the better ones in the tournament. Flintoff is one of the best in the world with the ball, Anderson is getting better and better (in ODIs) and Plunkett and Mahmood are coming along a lot better than we might have expected 7/8 months ago. As for Lewis, in the right conditions he will be a real handful for anybody, but Plunkett is likely to play in his place now. Flintoff-Anderson-Plunkett will do well as an attack.

I have though, just re-read your post and it seems I misinterpreted parts of it. CBA to re-write my post, so, er, prmph...

 

[Salamuddin]

Better average and better ER, plus Agarkar's stats have always flattered because he tends to perform when a game is over as a contest and has lots of cheap wickets against teams like Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.

Anderson also has the considerable benefit of not having to bowl the majority of his games on the subcontinent. Anderson's ER is quite high given that.
And PLunkett's is pretty poor at 5.8.

Agarkar's er drops to 4.78 away from India.

Englan's attack is no where near as good as you make it out to be.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Anderson also has the considerable benefit of not having to bowl the majority of his games on the subcontinent. Anderson's ER is quite high given that.
And PLunkett's is pretty poor at 5.8.

Agarkar's er drops to 4.78 away from India.

Englan's attack is no where near as good as you make it out to be.

Plunkett has played very few matches and got hammered playing on some real roads early on when he was a lot more raw than he is now. There's not much point looking at his ODI career record - I mean on batting average he will be our number 7 and Lewis would be a certainty to play ahead of him anyway with an ER of 3.99, but neither of those are true. Anderson's ER is high because he nearly always opens the bowling and bowls at the death, bowling when his action was in the long process of being altered doesn't help either. Agarkar still has his stats helped significantly by taking plenty of wickets against Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and Kenya. I think most people wouldn't think twice about taking Anderson's bowling over Agarkar's.

 

[Jono]

Plunkett being talked up so much, ridiculous. Can't wait till he cops a hiding in the World Cup, how often is he going to be able to bowl under lights?

 

[Richard]

Better average and better ER, plus Agarkar's stats have always flattered because he tends to perform when a game is over as a contest and has lots of cheap wickets against teams like Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.

Take a look at what Anderson's record does...

The difference Bangladesh, Holland, Namibia etc. make to Anderson is massively larger than what it makes to Agarkar.

 

[Richard]

Plunkett and Mahmood are coming along a lot better than we might have expected 7/8 months ago.

Hmm, I'm really not sure about that.

I can sort of see what you're getting at...

Plunkett has bowled well twice - that seemed pretty impossible not so long ago.

Mahmood has bowled semi-well twice - that seemed absolutely and totally impossible for most of his career.

 

[Richard]

Plunkett being talked up so much, ridiculous. Can't wait till he cops a hiding in the World Cup, how often is he going to be able to bowl under lights?

Not to mention with constant thunderstorms buzzing around.

Seriously, EXD's ability to overrate Durham players above all others would beggar belief if we didn't know it so well by now.

 

[Kriketer]

I would love to see 2 minnows in the semis, what a shocker would that be, but well that's way beyond reality.

 

[Richard]

I wouldn't.

Another farce of a World Cup that'd be.

 

[biased indian]

I wouldn't.

Another farce of a World Cup that'd be.

why if they reach there with out any pull outs it will be more entertaining