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Ponting on West Indies

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Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
So why dont you tell us where he was incorrect
Why dont you tell us if the Following is incorrect :-

""Glen Mcgrath and Ricky Pontingand Shane Warne and those sort of guys tend to enjoy themselves pretty much out on the field when things are going their way, but when things aren't going their way then they can drag their backsides around."

I know that would involve actually reading what he said before you post but, hey, there's got to be a first time for everything
Practice what you preach.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
He is not incorrect...what he said is true...but i just think that comments like those should be kept to urself, especially when people like ponting arent angels themselves!
It is true for every team and even more for Aussie team. I saw how Ponting acted during the Ashes in England and pretty much entire Aussie team in 2000-01 series in India.
 

Johnners

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
and the cycle starts again...Punter says something..people either agree or disagree...despite opinion, people say 'how dare he' and rant about Australian team behaviour...thread grows into the world vs Australian attitude debate...and so on.
Nominated for the Best Prediction Award.
 

Sudeep

International Captain
""Glen Mcgrath and Ricky Pontingand Shane Warne and those sort of guys tend to enjoy themselves pretty much out on the field when things are going their way, but when things aren't going their way then they can drag their backsides around."
Maybe because it's only hardly that things aren't going their way? :p
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Why dont you tell us if the Following is incorrect :-

""Glen Mcgrath and Ricky Pontingand Shane Warne and those sort of guys tend to enjoy themselves pretty much out on the field when things are going their way, but when things aren't going their way then they can drag their backsides around."



Practice what you preach.
Your usual stellar contribution

Aus says "black", Sanz says "white"

Aus says "white", Sanz says "black"
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
We all know when Warney spilt up with Simone before the Ashes 05, Clarkie was always there with Warney during the Ashes 05 tour as a support for Warney and we all know how many times Clarkie has saved Symo's ass.
:naughty:
 

Craig

World Traveller
You have said this 2nd time in 2007, it clearly isn't working. Please stop your personal attacks.
And how many people do I 'personally attack'

And if I wanted to personally attack you I would say a helluva lot more worse stuff.
 

pup11

International Coach
Anyways all said and done i seriously think Punter needs to be a bit more diplomatic with his "quotes" and he also seriously needs to work on his "PR" skills.
 

frey

School Boy/Girl Captain
Anyways all said and done i seriously think Punter needs to be a bit more diplomatic with his "quotes" and he also seriously needs to work on his "PR" skills.

Why? Why? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

In the context of what was reported, I think Ponting was fairly objective and diplomatic.
 

Matt79

Hall of Fame Member
Why dont you tell us if the Following is incorrect :-

""Glen Mcgrath and Ricky Pontingand Shane Warne and those sort of guys tend to enjoy themselves pretty much out on the field when things are going their way, but when things aren't going their way then they can drag their backsides around."



Practice what you preach.
Like they did in Adelaide this year when England kept them out in the field for ages and looked to have batted them out of the game? Or like they did in the 99 WC, when they were gone from the tournament for all money. Sure they often act visibly disappointed when things aren't going their way but - a) they keep on putting in their best effort and therefore often turn things around, which is what I think Ponting is getting at re the Windies, and b) it doesn't make what Ponting said about the Windies less true.
 

Matt79

Hall of Fame Member
It is true for every team and even more for Aussie team. I saw how Ponting acted during the Ashes in England and pretty much entire Aussie team in 2000-01 series in India.
Aside from his blow up at Fletcher after the Pratt run-out, when did Ponting lower his standards in the field. People might not like his style, but they can't accuse him of stopping putting in, which is what he's saying about the Windies?

And I didn't see McGrath or Warne stop trying during the 05 Ashes. McGrath was rushed back from injury so wasn't at full effectiveness, but it wasn't for lack of effort.

Poor example IMO.
 

pup11

International Coach
Guys whatever Ponting said is true and i don't have any problem with that, but he shouldn't be saying such things about other teams and its players.


He seems to come up with something sensational (something he shouldn't be saying, atleast to the media) atm whenever the media approaches him.



I think currently he should concentrate on ways to help Aussies win their 3rd WC in row, rather than worrying about temperament of other players.
 

Matt79

Hall of Fame Member
Guys whatever Ponting said is true and i don't have any problem with that, but he shouldn't be saying such things about other teams and its players.
Again I ask, why?

He seems to come up with something sensational (something he shouldn't be saying, atleast to the media) atm whenever the media approaches him.
He gives honest answers to questions that are asked of him. What's the problem with that?

I think currently he should concentrate on ways to help Aussies win their 3rd WC in row, rather than worrying about temperament of other players.
Any reason to think he can't do both?
 

Nishant

International 12th Man
Again I ask, why?


He gives honest answers to questions that are asked of him. What's the problem with that?


Any reason to think he can't do both?
The problem is that whenever anyone say the same things about the aussies, ppl like ponting re not too happy abt it. Ponting, McGrath etc....start to talk abt how inappropriate it is.....so why should they have the right to talk abt other teams?
 

Matt79

Hall of Fame Member
Examples? I can't think of any of the top of my head. I can think of a couple of things like that relatively recently - one where Boucher IIRC said that he wouldn't want to have a beer with the Aussie team, and a few of the players came out and said they thought that attitude was disappointing, but nobody said that Boucher didn't have the right to say it (that I saw at least). The other was when Vincent came out and said he thought the Aussies were arrogant tools (or words to that effect), and again, I think players responded saying they disagreed with that assessment and would probably have a word or two with Vincent when they next saw him, but again, nobody I can recall came out and said it was inappropriate for him to come out and express an opinion.

Before the last couple of Ashes series there was lots of banter before the series' about the Aussies being too old, and the Aussies participated in that banter and suggested that they'd see who laughed last, but again, I don't think any of them had a sook about it.

I may be wrong, and Ponting, McGrath or others might have made comments like you mention, but I can't remember them - can you refresh my memory?
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
And how many people do I 'personally attack'

And if I wanted to personally attack you I would say a helluva lot more worse stuff.
It doesn't matter how many people you attack and go ahead say anything you want, as if it is going to stop me from speaking my mind.
 
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