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Ponting accuses England of gamesmanship
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Exactly. Any team would.
Son Of Coco
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Pretty good actually. And Swann and Bopara made the wicket look like a minefield on occasions by ducking into bouncers or turning their heads. That was good of them.
Son Of Coco
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I couldn't say for sure that he would. Did he do it in 2005? I can't remember to be honest.
The argument that "you'd do it too" is a hollow one, and as for saying Ponting can't make a comment because of his own actions - that's ridiculous.
But, we wouldn't have won anyway by that stage. Ponting himself said it wasn't why we didn't get the win.
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The Sean
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We're not exactly whiter than white when it comes to gamesmanship though, are we? Fair enough if you don't think Australia would have done the same - that's your call and we'll honestly never know either way - but it's not as though Australia doesn't have previous and I'd disagree with the idea that it's "totally ridiculous" and "founded upon nothing" to suggest we'd do something similar.
Again though, bottom line is we had 69 balls at 10 and 11 and couldn't get them out.
Burgey
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"Everyone does it" - the rubbish defence of everyone who gets a speeding fine.
You make a good point mate. He should raise it. So if it's tried on again the match officials are all aware of it as an issue. There may be a time when it will be of some importance, if the minty grubs have another crack at it.
It's also about when these things happen, as it is in any sport. Get a dodgy bit of gamesmanship on day 2 of a bore-draw, or in the 30th minute of a league game, no one notices. Same thing happens in the 80th minute, it's headline news.
Loving the comment about Ponting's appeal from the same people who mocked their own bloke (Monty, with Strauss at slip baying away btw) for excessive appealing.
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Son Of Coco
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Again, did we do it in 2005 when we were in a similar position?
You're right about us having enough deliveries left to get them out though.
The Sean
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I honestly don't remember mate, but if we didn't then fair play.
Not content with being the premier spinner in the contest Hauritz also has the good grace to be the bigger man:
I'd have done the same - Hauritz | Cricket News | The Ashes - England v Australia 2009 | Cricinfo.com
I'd have done the same - Hauritz | Cricket News | The Ashes - England v Australia 2009 | Cricinfo.com
zaremba
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No, you're right: he has every right to say it. And it's also true that he has every right to lecture everyone about the Spirit of Cricket.
And we have every right to criticise his barefaced cheek.
superkingdave
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Australia managed to get 15 overs in in 50 minutes with England timewasting. Makes a mockery of International sides not being able to bowl 15 overs an hour throughout a normal day.
zaremba
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Loving how a minority of Aussie fans here are working themselves up into a lather of righteous indignation.
Like this:
I'd have done the same - Hauritz | Cricket News | The Ashes - England v Australia 2009 | Cricinfo.com
Like this:
Erm...
I'd have done the same - Hauritz | Cricket News | The Ashes - England v Australia 2009 | Cricinfo.com
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The Sean
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Generalisations make me sad.
zaremba
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No-one's saying it's a defence. What it is is two things: first, a mitigating factor which puts the gravity of the offence into proper perspective, and secondly, it's a perfectly legitimate reply to the little hairy two-headed rat who sees fit to slag you off for it whilst preaching about the Spirit of Cricket. Hauritz was big enough to have admitted that Australia would have done the same thing.
zaremba
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In every case?Generalisations make me sad.
Anyway, fixed. Apologies.
I now want to leave this issue behind because it's not likely to promote Anglo-Australian harmony on this forum, and we've got 4 Tests to get through yet.
The Sean
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Of course not Mr Z - only when it suits me.In every case?
pasag
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pfft, bring it onIn every case?
Anyway, fixed. Apologies.
I now want to leave this issue behind because it's not likely to promote Anglo-Australian harmony on this forum, and we've got 4 Tests to get through yet.
