Players with full careers who would have had better records in other teams

[mr_mister]

Atherton's career minus his last 3 ashes series is probably an average of 40+

McGrath just destroyed his reputation and his stats

34 innings against Australia featuring McGrath, and he was dismissed in single figures 18 times from them. Zero centuries

 

[TheJediBrah]

Having to play Australia so much is probably an undervalued factor in 90s English cricketers stats tbh

As a team they were still pretty bad even against everyone else though from what I know

 

[BazBall21]

Atherton's serious back problem - ankylosing spondylitis - is a bigger factor in his relatively low average IMO. If he didn't have the back issue he might have averaged 40+ even for England. To average what he did with that condition, against those attacks, was a great career really.

Agree about the back condition. That definitely exaceprated his decline. It was a very unforgiving set of circumstances during the back end of his career.

 

[BazBall21]

Having to play Australia so much is probably an undervalued factor in 90s English cricketers stats tbh

As a team they were still pretty bad even against everyone else though from what I know

They were still bad, but playing Australia so much did them no favours. And then all the long series' against the Windies and South Africa too. Poor old Atherton.

 

[ataraxia]

They were still bad, but playing Australia so much did them no favours. And then all the long series' against the Windies and South Africa too. Poor old Atherton.

With your posts' this has bugged me for a while

 

[howitzer]

Agree about the back condition. That definitely exaceprated his decline. It was a very unforgiving set of circumstances during the back end of his career.

Trent Bridge against Donald despite this is great.

 

[mr_mister]

They were still bad, but playing Australia so much did them no favours. And then all the long series' against the Windies and South Africa too. Poor old Atherton.

He managed to give a fair bit back to SA and Windies though. The 185* and 98* not out against Donald and Pollock, and 4 tons against Ambrose and Walsh

He had virtually no ashes success once McGrath began his test career

 

[BazBall21]

Trent Bridge against Donald despite this is great.

Always did well against SA. Even in his decline.

 

[TheJediBrah]

With your posts' this has bugged me for a while

what about this:

Agree about the back condition. That definitely exaceprated his decline. It was a very unforgiving set of circumstances during the back end of his career.

 

[ataraxia]

what about this:

Willing to give that leniency lol because I can barely spell the word myself

 

[BazBall21]

He managed to give a fair bit back to SA and Windies though. The 185* and 98* not out against Donald and Pollock, and 4 tons against Ambrose and Walsh

He had virtually no ashes success once McGrath began his test career

Yes. Always did well against SA and had a great tour of WI in his prime. Good series against them at home in 95 too.

Initially did well in the Ashes, then McGrath came along...

 

[ataraxia]

what about this:

Congratz on customtitlehood btw

 

[Gnske]

Ponting in India. His stats would be more honest and he would have played more meaningful cricket in a shorter career.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Congratz on customtitlehood btw

I don't know what that means but thank you

 

[howitzer]

I don't know what that means but thank you

Thought it was a tattoo you were getting tbh

 

[ataraxia]

I don't know what that means but thank you

Yes you do

 

[mr_mister]

I don't know what that means but thank you

Reward for making 30000 posts is you can make your title under your username whatever you want I think

 

[mr_mister]

Yes. Always did well against SA and had a great tour of WI in his prime. Good series against them at home in 95 too.

Initially did well in the Ashes, then McGrath came along...

Yeah just had a look, he had a really solid '93 ashes, getting 6 fifties. Nearly scored as many runs as what he got in '97, '98/99, and '01 ashes combined

 

[howitzer]

Reward for making 30000 posts is you can make your title under your username whatever you want I think

Thought it was 25000. Maybe mistaken.

 

[mr_mister]

Thought it was 25000. Maybe mistaken.

Either way you've got some work to put in