Placing our bets on "Test Cricket's Young Fab Four"

[Daemon]

Nah I don't buy that.

A 50 can contribute to a win, even if not as much as a hundred

Root also hits counterattacking fifties in tough conditions in low scoring games that are pretty valuable.

 

[Spark]

Root also hits counterattacking fifties in tough conditions in low scoring games that are pretty valuable.

He actually hits hundreds in those games a lot of the time. 2015 Ashes, in SA etc. Why he still ought to be rated so highly.

 

[Spark]

it doesn't read that way tbf. aesthetics over output sounded a lot like you were calling him a world class ian bell, where he looks great but only good for like a 70 or something.

edit - looking at the poll, i'm surprised so few people have voted. kohli seems to have pulled the most global voting base

It's not so much that, it's more than people were literally calling him the best of the four a few years back on the basis of how he looked.

 

[_Ed_]

Which IMO really wasn't that unreasonable considering his results at that time. I don't think it was spurious at all for anyone to make a case for any of them being the best. Thus the reason for the poll, I guess.

I still don't know why we're having to defend people's ratings of KW when he didn't even win the poll.

 

[Spark]

Which IMO really wasn't that unreasonable considering his results at that time. I don't think it was spurious at all for anyone to make a case for any of them being the best. Thus the reason for the poll, I guess.

I still don't know why we're having to defend people's ratings of KW when he didn't even win the poll.

The ratings weren't so much spurious as the reasons being given. People were really going over the top, and the poll shows that IMO.

 

[Flem274*]

It's not so much that, it's more than people were literally calling him the best of the four a few years back on the basis of how he looked.

When they were as even as the four were at the time of the poll, aren't you going to separate them based on something minor or gut feel? Kane didn't even win the poll, Kohli did.

You're posting like you have a big fat chip on your shoulder which is weird because you're not that kind of person.

 

[Spark]

When they were as even as the four were at the time of the poll, aren't you going to separate them based on something minor or gut feel? Kane didn't even win the poll, Kohli did.

You're posting like you have a big fat chip on your shoulder which is weird because you're not that kind of person.

Steady on, it was a one line post. People have then turned that to something way bigger.

I mean, I just think that people were placing too much weight on the way his technique looked, and the aesthetic quality of his strokeplay. That's all.

 

[Adders]

Hahahah, Kiwis hating on Spark..

 

[Spark]

Hahahah, Kiwis hating on Spark..

It's really weird. I'm not the one going on about it in multiple threads!

 

[Flem274*]

Steady on, it was a one line post. People have then turned that to something way bigger.

I mean, I just think that people were placing too much weight on the way his technique looked, and the aesthetic quality of his strokeplay. That's all.

and that's a far enough argument to make, but you phrased that post really really badly. was always going to get the reaction it got haha

 

[Spark]

and that's a far enough argument to make, but you phrased that post really really badly. was always going to get the reaction it got haha

Maybe I would have gotten less of a reaction if I really did post about it like I had a chip on my shoulder A few people have really reached and gone to extremes in how uncharitable they've been in their interpretations of that post, which I obviously would have predicted but oh well.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Spark learning Kiwis aren't exactly the most easy going bunch

 

[_Ed_]

Hahahah, Kiwis hating on Spark..

Ha, no, not at all - and I hope it's not coming across that way. I always rate his posts, and of course he's entitled to his opinion. It's just a bit strange that KW finishing second in this big four poll (three and a half years ago) is seen as the anomaly in the results.

 

[Daemon]

None of this would've happened if the thread was shut down immediately once the word 'fabbie' was used in the poll

 

[Spark]

Ha, no, not at all - and I hope it's not coming across that way. I always rate his posts, and of course he's entitled to his opinion. It's just a bit strange that KW finishing second in this big four poll (three and a half years ago) is seen as the anomaly in the results.

People were bringing him up v0v

 

[Gob]

Parody thread ideas-Placing our bets on test cricket's fat four

Arjuna Ranathunge
Darren Lehman
Inzamam Ul Haq
Dwayne Leverock

 

[Loose Cannon]

I really am at odds with how to value Root. Sure, he doesn't seem to go on and make hundreds like the rest, but he scores lots more 50's more reliably. If you had 6 roots in your team you would be pretty hard to beat. Throw in the tail and you'd probably always be ending up near 400 per innings. Root's 50's are usually worth a partnership of 100 unless the other batsmen are failing. Are people just getting upset because you can not cheer him on due to the tradition being it is cheers for 100. Why not cheers for two 50's?

Obviously Smith rules, but how can you split the other three except for cheers factor (which doesn't win games)?

[B]Name   InningsAve   MatchAvg  100s  50s[/B]
Smith  63.55        97.93     23    22
Kohli  53.75        83.61     20    15
Root   52.73        86.81     13    36
Willi' 50.62        82.76     17    26

If you allocate a cheer for 100 as double a cheer for a 50 (seems about right listening to crowds) then we have

Smith    68 cheers
Kohli    55 cheers
Root     62 cheers
Willi'   60 cheers

So help me.... What is the problem with Root? In runs per match and cheers per match, he is second best.

Your crowds are bastards for not cheering 150, 200 or 250.

 

[srbhkshk]

Kohli making a fair case for #2?

 

[Slifer]

I think most of us already had him there.

 

[harsh.ag]

All three of them have a fair case for number 2 now. Kohli had some catching up to do. Williamson may as well not matter though since he doesn't play tests anymore.