Pick your 30!

[Pratters]

In hindsight I think the coaches and captains or just coaches of the remaining 9 teams should have put their sides in, the players with most votes chosen.

I dont think that would have as surprising choices as this.

But when the final 15 is selected, hopefully the sides look good. Too few New Zealand players?!

 

[Scaly piscine]

Too few New Zealand and England players. Too many India and Pakistan players - at least they maintained the ICC bias tho.

 

[Mister Wright]

Is it impossible for the selectors to choose outside the squad of 30 (given poor form or injury) or can they only choose out of the 30?

 

[vic_orthdox]

Who would have guessed nine players from Pakistan??

I reckon Pathan might be a chance, just because in teams like this you often see selectors forced/falling into the hype of a player like him.

hmm, unfortunately i was right.

How can Cairns go from World XI (excluding Asia) in January to not in the top 30 ODI players in the world by May? Especially when Gough still gets a recall, they're in a similar boat one would have thought...

Too few New Zealand and England players.

Seven's a darn reasonable number. However, if your referring to Flintoff being the only one in both squads, I can see your point of view.

Is it impossible for the selectors to choose outside the squad of 30 (given poor form or injury) or can they only choose out of the 30?

Surely they won't restrict the potency of the World XI like that, it would only make the game farcical!

Oh, wait. Naved ul Hasan as a test player...

 

[Beleg]

Rana Naveed for tests just beggers belief.

 

[a massive zebra]

Rana Naveed for tests just beggers belief.

Indeed.

 

[Mister Wright]

All this talk about Hassan - I bet he gets into the XI and win the match for the World side.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Seven's a darn reasonable number. However, if your referring to Flintoff being the only one in both squads, I can see your point of view.

Exactly, for a start England will be playing Australia in the next few months so they should have the most players in the initial squad simply because any one of them could end up doing really well against Australia and the selectors would then look utterly stupid (which I don't mind too much since Atherton is one of the selectors) - imagine if England win The Ashes/ODIs, how dumb are those selectors going to look in October with just 4 England players in each squad?

 

[blockbuster]

Vaughan over Thorpe?! Have these guys been watching English cricket the last twelve months?!

....and did you watch what Vaughan did to Australia, in Australia during the entire series in 2002/2003? Especially what he did at the SCG (the venue for this match)

 

[GermanShepherd]

Too few New Zealand and England players. Too many India and Pakistan players - at least they maintained the ICC bias tho.

Oh give it a rest Pommy. This ICC "is biased in favour of Asia" attitude is pathetic to put it mildly.

 

[Pratters]

Is it impossible for the selectors to choose outside the squad of 30 (given poor form or injury) or can they only choose out of the 30?

Atherton clarifies - "The 30 names are not exclusive. You can come into the squads of 20 or the final 13 if you're not in the initial 30"

 

[Mister Wright]

Atherton clarifies - "The 30 names are not exclusive. You can come into the squads of 20 or the final 13 if you're not in the initial 30"

That's good to know...phew

 

[Steulen]

There's an Atherton Q&A on the BBC website. At least we now know where the Pietersen nomination came from...Atherton, President of the KPAS.

 

[vic_orthdox]

There's an Atherton Q&A on the BBC website. At least we now know where the Pietersen nomination came from...Atherton, President of the KPAS.

link please... for us lazy ones.

 

[blockbuster]

Atherton clarifies - "The 30 names are not exclusive. You can come into the squads of 20 or the final 13 if you're not in the initial 30"

Other than Cairns, there is nobody else who will get picked outside the 30.

 

[GermanShepherd]

Well, for a start they named 30 for each, but some of the selections and non-selections are nothing short of a farce

In both squads: Pathan, Naved ul Hasan, Harbhajan.

How is Harbhajan's selection a farce ? There are plenty of worse spinners they could have picked than him.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Other than Cairns, there is nobody else who will get picked outside the 30.

Michael Bevan???

In all seriousness, the way that Pieterson suddenly exploded into the squad, why is there not a possible reason that someone like a Kaif, who has been reasonable up to this point of his career, and around for quite a while, suddenly had a similar burst of awesome form in ODIs couldn't be included in the World XI side. Or if Hamish Marshall continued to make runs in Test Match Cricket, and there were injuries.

Never say never, my dear friend.

 

[Pratters]

Atherton gives a bit of a perspective into a few English players which were chosen/not chosen

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/4529159.stm

Matthew Hoggard is the one absence of an England regular but his last tour of Australia wasn't particularly successful so that would have counted against him.

There are perhaps one or two question-marks as to how long Graham Thorpe will play and I told the rest of the selectors I think he is a bit past his best physically, not necessarily technically.

Darren Gough has done well since retiring as a Test player.

Pietersen showed a high level of form in South Africa but we don't know whether that's a flash in the pan so this summer will tell us more.

 

[blockbuster]

Michael Bevan???

In all seriousness, the way that Pieterson suddenly exploded into the squad, why is there not a possible reason that someone like a Kaif, who has been reasonable up to this point of his career, and around for quite a while, suddenly had a similar burst of awesome form in ODIs couldn't be included in the World XI side. Or if Hamish Marshall continued to make runs in Test Match Cricket, and there were injuries.

Never say never, my dear friend.

Hamish Marshall - never, never, never.

People so over-rate his performances against Australia. He only averaged 40, and the pitches were so benign.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Hamish Marshall - never, never, never.

People so over-rate his performances against Australia. He only averaged 40, and the pitches were so benign.

But that's the point with Marshall. He succeeds more on the harder, and less benign, wickets. And I reckon that more than half of the batsman named in the 30 man squad would average less than 40 against Australia in the first place.

Anyways, the point I was making was not in particular reference to those two players, it was saying that it isn't that unforeseeable (I'm not fully aware of what the schedules for countries other than Aus and Eng are like before the Super Series) that there will be an extra inclusion who ends up making the team.

One to watch out for in such a circumstance, Matthew Hoggard.