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Pick the ideal batsman for these scenarios

subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
Who is your choice bat for these scenarios?

Overcast Day 1 morning in Christchurch facing Hadlee

Dusty 5th day crumbling Chennai wicket facing Ashwin and Kumble, chasing 250

Last over, final wicket partnership to save the game on a Gabba wicket facing McGrath

Near end of days play and coming out to open on a Sabina Park wicket facing Ambrose

New batsman on a Faislabad wicket facing Wasim and Waqar reversing with the old ball

Facing a pissed off Michael Holding on a Perth wicket who wants to kill the batsman

Last over of ODI tournament final in Johannesburg, 15 runs needed, Shaun Pollock bowling
 
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Coronis

International Coach
Who is your choice bat for these scenarios?

Last over, final wicket partnership to save the game on a Gabba wicket facing McGrath

Near end of days play and coming out to open on a Sabina Park wicket facing Ambrose

Facing a pissed off Michael Holding on a Perth wicket who wants to kill the batsman
Ken Barrington

Herbert Sutcliffe and Jack Hobbs

Viv Richards
 

Tejretics

Cricket Spectator
I’ll try some of them, solely from players who retired after 1980 or so.
  • Overcast morning against Hadlee: I’d go Steve Smith. His odd stance and playing the ball late makes him good against swing, and he has the best numbers against outswing deliveries in the modern game, which was often Hadlee’s weapon of choice.
  • Facing Ashwin and Kumble on a crumbling Chennai wicket: I’m tempted by Lara, despite Ashwin’s effectiveness against left-handers, just because I want to chase down the 250. If I were risk-averse and trying to survive, I’d go Dravid, probably?
  • Saving a Gabba game against McGrath: If I’ve got a shot at winning the game in the over, Viv Richards. If I’m just looking to hold onto the wicket, Jacques Kallis seems like a good shout, intuitively.
  • Wasim and Waqar’s reverse swing: I recall they both considered Crowe the most challenging bat when facing reverse swing, so I’ll stick with Crowe.
  • Holding at Perth: Intuitively, seems like Ponting is the obvious choice, although Viv seems like a pretty good bet too.
  • Final over of an ODI final against Pollock: I haven’t thought about this too deeply, but at face value, if I want 15 runs off the final over of an ODI match, I’m probably going MS Dhoni? If I could pick Pollock’s countryman, I wouldn’t mind Klusener either. And Viv just seems like a good choice for a lot of these.
 

Thala_0710

State Vice-Captain
Who is your choice bat for these scenarios?

Overcast Day 1 morning in Christchurch facing Hadlee

Dusty 5th day crumbling Chennai wicket facing Ashwin and Kumble, chasing 250

Last over, final wicket partnership to save the game on a Gabba wicket facing McGrath

Near end of days play and coming out to open on a Sabina Park wicket facing Ambrose

New batsman on a Faislabad wicket facing Wasim and Waqar reversing with the old ball

Facing a pissed off Michael Holding on a Perth wicket who wants to kill the batsman

Last over of ODI tournament final in Johannesburg, 15 runs needed, Shaun Pollock bowling
Dravid
Gavaskar
Kallis
Hobbs
Crowe
Richards
Dhoni
 

capt_Luffy

International Coach
Who is your choice bat for these scenarios?

Overcast Day 1 morning in Christchurch facing Hadlee

Dusty 5th day crumbling Chennai wicket facing Ashwin and Kumble, chasing 250

Last over, final wicket partnership to save the game on a Gabba wicket facing McGrath

Near end of days play and coming out to open on a Sabina Park wicket facing Ambrose

New batsman on a Faislabad wicket facing Wasim and Waqar reversing with the old ball

Facing a pissed off Michael Holding on a Perth wicket who wants to kill the batsman

Last over of ODI tournament final in Johannesburg, 15 runs needed, Shaun Pollock bowling
Dravid
Sehwag
Steve Waugh
Peak Gooch
Gavaskar
Viv
Dhoni
 

Silver Silva

International Vice-Captain
1.Javed Miandad
Played in prime Hadlee's era , scored 928 runs @77 in NZ conditions

2.Younis Khan
One of the greatest players of spin bowling.
Averages 76.80 in India and in the 4th innings he averages over 50 , nobody in the history of the game has more 4th innings hundreds than YK so Day 5 target won't phase him.

3.Jacques Kallis
This comes down to temperament, and few value their wicket more than Kallis. He has experience in saving test matches all around the world so I would trust him.

4.Martin Crowe
Crowe faced the 2 W's in their prime and played reverse swing incredibly well with great success. The 2 seamers have spoken highly of the late Martin Crowe

5.Ian Chappell
Ponting averaged under 40 at Perth in 17 tests , and Viv averaged 42 from 3 tests at WACA.. I'd want someone who has a good record vs West Indies , Chappell averaged 57 vs the West Indies in his career and has a 156 against Michael Holding at the WACA

6.Ricky Ponting
Here you just need logic , if a top order batter is still at the crease in the final over that means he is well set and batting on a good score. Ponting has made big runs vs Pollock before, and his record at Wanderers is ridiculous averaging 98 at a SR of 107. This includes magnificent hundred in 03 WC Final at Wanderers and highest score in odi cricket in 438 game. Plus he's won multiple World Cups so the pressure will be nothing for him.
 
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govinda indian fan

State Captain
Who is your choice bat for these scenarios?

Overcast Day 1 morning in Christchurch facing Hadlee

Dusty 5th day crumbling Chennai wicket facing Ashwin and Kumble, chasing 250

Last over, final wicket partnership to save the game on a Gabba wicket facing McGrath

Near end of days play and coming out to open on a Sabina Park wicket facing Ambrose

New batsman on a Faislabad wicket facing Wasim and Waqar reversing with the old ball

Facing a pissed off Michael Holding on a Perth wicket who wants to kill the batsman

Last over of ODI tournament final in Johannesburg, 15 runs needed, Shaun Pollock bowling
1.grame smith/sanga-smith unconventional technique and sanga leaving balls outside off
2.lara/steve smith- smith faces kumble while lara takes on ashwin
3.kallis/maindad- two tough nuts
4.dravid/waugh- two best batsmen to tour wi since 1990
5.crowe/tendulkar -crowe takes on wasim while sachin smashes waqar
6.border/punter-border toughness plus ponting aggressive intent

7.dhoni/stokes- two ice cool cricketers
 

Johan

International Captain
to break my answer down further.

1. Rahul Dravid – Simply put, he was one of the Greatest players of movement I've seen, and in New Zealand where the bounce is often and mostly consistent, I don't think Hadlee has the bowling to break through his rock solid defense and he'd eventually just outlast the conditions, Javed might've scored a bunch on Hadlee but his runs came "on another perfect pitch there, a draw was the only realistic result." or "grassless pitch would break up readily, the toss seemed to be vital." and therefore I don't think we can go by that on what would happen on a overcast greentop. Dravid is the one I have full confidence and belief in.

2. Jack Hobbs – he mastered wet and matting wickets which imo are even more threatning than a day 5 Indian fast turner, he's probably the Greatest Batman of all time among humans so I think I'll have faith in him finding the way, I considered Hutton but Hobbs is practically just a Hutton who could dominate and attack better, I also considered Denis Compton but that's mostly just wishful thinking though he was indeed very good on tough wickets as well. Herbert Sutcliffe is also a good call.

3. Steve Waugh – simply put, a proper fighter, his defense and mental strength is there to combat McGrath, he has practically faced a faster less skilled but just as competent version of McGrath in the form of Ambrose, I feel like if you're fighting for a draw with the last wicket, you need someone with exceptional mental strength and ability to play pace, you can always go for Viv Richards as he has both but I think he might give into his instinct to dominate and get out, Waugh would block away and would be disciplined enough to not throw.

4. Viv Richards – very easy choice, You have one of the greatest fast bowlers of all time, on one of the fastest pitches on planet Earth, what you want is the greatest player of fast bowling, Graham Gooch is also a good shout as he was one of the greats against pace but Viv has already opened on the ultra fast Australian wickets against Lillee and Thompson, he made 30, 101, 50 and 98. Viv's counter attack against Ambrose also might just be the thing that turns the game into my favour, Really a no brainer here.

5. Viv Richards/Sunil Gavaskar – simply put, the first two Batters who figured out reverse swing, Gavaskar maintained a 50+ average against Imran, Viv averaged 58 against 80s Imran and Imran learned reverse swing around late 70s, new batsmen would probably have to be Viv as Gavaskar was the opener.

6. Viv Richards – I've my doubts on Ponting, but Viv is simply put the Greatest player of fast bowling ever, he'd actually smash apart Holding and knock him mentally out of the game, the second option would probably be someone like Sir Garfield Sobers or Steve Waugh but to me, Viv is the obvious answer, again, most of these are fast bowling, so it's just logical that the Greatest player of fast bowling in the history of the great game is mentioned more and more and should become a logical pick for a lot of this.

7. Viv Richards – Amazing player of fast bowling, amazing mental strength, Greatest player of One Days, a gifted the power hitter and so forth, once again, an obvious choice to me.
 

subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
to break my answer down further.

1. Rahul Dravid – Simply put, he was one of the Greatest players of movement I've seen, and in New Zealand where the bounce is often and mostly consistent, I don't think Hadlee has the bowling to break through his rock solid defense and he'd eventually just outlast the conditions, Javed might've scored a bunch on Hadlee but his runs came "on another perfect pitch there, a draw was the only realistic result." or "grassless pitch would break up readily, the toss seemed to be vital." and therefore I don't think we can go by that on what would happen on a overcast greentop. Dravid is the one I have full confidence and belief in.

2. Jack Hobbs – he mastered wet and matting wickets which imo are even more threatning than a day 5 Indian fast turner, he's probably the Greatest Batman of all time among humans so I think I'll have faith in him finding the way, I considered Hutton but Hobbs is practically just a Hutton who could dominate and attack better, I also considered Denis Compton but that's mostly just wishful thinking though he was indeed very good on tough wickets as well. Herbert Sutcliffe is also a good call.

3. Steve Waugh – simply put, a proper fighter, his defense and mental strength is there to combat McGrath, he has practically faced a faster less skilled but just as competent version of McGrath in the form of Ambrose, I feel like if you're fighting for a draw with the last wicket, you need someone with exceptional mental strength and ability to play pace, you can always go for Viv Richards as he has both but I think he might give into his instinct to dominate and get out, Waugh would block away and would be disciplined enough to not throw.

4. Viv Richards – very easy choice, You have one of the greatest fast bowlers of all time, on one of the fastest pitches on planet Earth, what you want is the greatest player of fast bowling, Graham Gooch is also a good shout as he was one of the greats against pace but Viv has already opened on the ultra fast Australian wickets against Lillee and Thompson, he made 30, 101, 50 and 98. Viv's counter attack against Ambrose also might just be the thing that turns the game into my favour, Really a no brainer here.

5. Viv Richards/Sunil Gavaskar – simply put, the first two Batters who figured out reverse swing, Gavaskar maintained a 50+ average against Imran, Viv averaged 58 against 80s Imran and Imran learned reverse swing around late 70s, new batsmen would probably have to be Viv as Gavaskar was the opener.

6. Viv Richards – I've my doubts on Ponting, but Viv is simply put the Greatest player of fast bowling ever, he'd actually smash apart Holding and knock him mentally out of the game, the second option would probably be someone like Sir Garfield Sobers or Steve Waugh but to me, Viv is the obvious answer, again, most of these are fast bowling, so it's just logical that the Greatest player of fast bowling in the history of the great game is mentioned more and more and should become a logical pick for a lot of this.

7. Viv Richards – Amazing player of fast bowling, amazing mental strength, Greatest player of One Days, a gifted the power hitter and so forth, once again, an obvious choice to me.
My rebuttal:

1. Dravids against smart seamers like McGrath and Asif wasn't that great and I sense Hadlee would figure him out rather than be blocked out. Honestly see Steve Smith with his unconventional technique and adjustment doing better.

2. I agree in Hobbs as far as pitch but not sure of him as far as spin. I think Sehwag is the best bet. He may not get a hundred but will get the team closer.

3. Agreed Waugh will see out these deliveries with no issues.

4. I don't think we can jump to Viv opening. I see this situation best for Gooch or even Alec Stewart.

5 . Crowe pretty much already did this against peak 2Ws. Gavaskar is a good shout.

6. I think Viv is the best one to counterattack Holding but also likely to hoick one too many and lose his wicket. I think a milder Ponting may be better suited to simply survive the spell and not die or frankly Border who will just be willing to cop some blows.

7. Viv wasn't necessarily a finisher per se. I think Dhoni is best suited here especially since it's not a express bowler.
 

Johan

International Captain
My rebuttal:

1. Dravids against smart seamers like McGrath and Asif wasn't that great and I sense Hadlee would figure him out rather than be blocked out. Honestly see Steve Smith with his unconventional technique and adjustment doing better.

2. I agree in Hobbs as far as pitch but not sure of him as far as spin. I think Sehwag is the best bet. He may not get a hundred but will get the team closer.

3. Agreed Waugh will see out these deliveries with no issues.

4. I don't think we can jump to Viv opening. I see this situation best for Gooch or even Alec Stewart.

5 . Crowe pretty much already did this against peak 2Ws. Gavaskar is a good shout.

6. I think Viv is the best one to counterattack Holding but also likely to hoick one too many and lose his wicket. I think a milder Ponting may be better suited to simply survive the spell and not die or frankly Border who will just be willing to cop some blows.

7. Viv wasn't necessarily a finisher per se. I think Dhoni is best suited here especially since it's not a express bowler.
1. Don't exactly agree, against Australia his biggest nemesis was Warne, against McGrath he struggled more so with the bounce, New Zealand is far more similar to England than it is to Australia and so I think Dravid, who is perhaps the Greatest in England of this millenium, is a better choice.

2. I think Hobbs probably just had more technique, Sehwag looks down on spinners so I think it's likely he might pull a Viv 1983 world cup final and send it to a fielder, Hobbs would take his time but I feel like due to the nature of his play he is neither too slow but also very reliable.

4. Gooch works fine too

5. I think Viv is the better Batsmen of the two against reverse seeing how he worked against Imran (who I've above the Ws) so I'd go Viv, Crowe is also a good shout.

6. I doubt that, Viv played recklessly against normal bowlers more so than ATGs who he played very well, Border's record against West Indies on faster wickets is not very convincing to say the least.
 

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