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Pakistan Thread
- Thread starter Niall
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Bouncer
State Regular
There is a talk about sending Sarfraz as opener and keeping NJ out for India game because Indian bowling line is likely to be not too threatening to Sarfaraz. I would not do that right now both NJ and Sarfraz are out of batting form so if I have to pick an out of form regular opener vs an out of form make shift opener - I would pick NJ.
SeamUp
International Coach
Frustrating watching the Pakistan team since the late 90's and early 00's. Saeed Anwar, Inzamam, Razzaq, Saqlain, Muhtaq, Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib even were part of pathetic Pakistan performances as well but as a team they were special quite often. You can't say there are too many special players around in this current team.
They may pull out another miracle and win this tournament but after this WC they need to get the future in and rebuild their team. Start giving experience to Sami Aslam, Babar Azam, Mohammed Rizwan, Hammad Azam, Zafar Gohar, Raza Hasan, Karamat Ali & 'Mohammed Amer'.
They may pull out another miracle and win this tournament but after this WC they need to get the future in and rebuild their team. Start giving experience to Sami Aslam, Babar Azam, Mohammed Rizwan, Hammad Azam, Zafar Gohar, Raza Hasan, Karamat Ali & 'Mohammed Amer'.
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Agent Nationaux
International Coach
Agent Nationaux
International Coach
smash84
The Tiger King
Agent Nationaux
International Coach
Problems with Pakistan
So let's analyse why Pakistan is so ****.
The main problem I see is the Infrastructure.
When players get into the national side, they should already have the basic skills around batting, bowling and fielding sorted out. But with Pakistan, these guys don't have the right batting/bowling techniques and fielding is abysmal.
For example, the guys that are coming in now can't even swing the new ball at all or their batting technique is shoddy. The Windies managed to get the ball to swing as did India, but our bowlers weren't swinging the ball at all. This is a real concern. Thinking that they will learn to field or improve their batting/bowling techniques at the International level is silly. It's too late by then because this needs to be fixed at a young age.
The problem is that schools/universities aren't producing great players any more. We have produced many great batsman through our education system but this isn't happening now. Part of the blame lies with the Government, who don't pour money into education and facilities. Another problem is with the local cricket administrations and clubs, where coaching is abysmal (I mean they let chuckers through). And then PCB doesn't help either. For example, we don't get more A-team, under 19 tours where our players can play in different conditions, and learn to say for example, play the moving ball.
And when they do arrive at the International scene, the coaching is still bad. What is Waqar doing? He is an ATG bowler and yet our bowling is rubbish with guys like Wahab with dodgy wrist positions (can this even be fixed?). What about the batting coach, Grant Flower? Why are our batsmen still of the mindset that once they make a 50 they have done their job and that they can relax. I guess it doesn't help when you keep changing the coaching staff regularly.
So let's analyse why Pakistan is so ****.
The main problem I see is the Infrastructure.
When players get into the national side, they should already have the basic skills around batting, bowling and fielding sorted out. But with Pakistan, these guys don't have the right batting/bowling techniques and fielding is abysmal.
For example, the guys that are coming in now can't even swing the new ball at all or their batting technique is shoddy. The Windies managed to get the ball to swing as did India, but our bowlers weren't swinging the ball at all. This is a real concern. Thinking that they will learn to field or improve their batting/bowling techniques at the International level is silly. It's too late by then because this needs to be fixed at a young age.
The problem is that schools/universities aren't producing great players any more. We have produced many great batsman through our education system but this isn't happening now. Part of the blame lies with the Government, who don't pour money into education and facilities. Another problem is with the local cricket administrations and clubs, where coaching is abysmal (I mean they let chuckers through). And then PCB doesn't help either. For example, we don't get more A-team, under 19 tours where our players can play in different conditions, and learn to say for example, play the moving ball.
And when they do arrive at the International scene, the coaching is still bad. What is Waqar doing? He is an ATG bowler and yet our bowling is rubbish with guys like Wahab with dodgy wrist positions (can this even be fixed?). What about the batting coach, Grant Flower? Why are our batsmen still of the mindset that once they make a 50 they have done their job and that they can relax. I guess it doesn't help when you keep changing the coaching staff regularly.
Grumpy
U19 Vice-Captain
For example, the players are ****.
smash84
The Tiger King
I so hate this clown.....ugh. why us he even around?
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smash84
The Tiger King
smash84
The Tiger King
Exactly. Why the **** are you heading the ex-com if you can't up come up with a good team in which you and the people can have confidence. Stupid ass wipe.
Wasim Akram to Pakistan: Win or get ready for early flight home - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
No **** wasim
Wasim Akram to Pakistan: Win or get ready for early flight home - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
No **** wasim
Fusion
Global Moderator
Because he's a ****, that's why. One of the most selfish players to ever play for Pakistan has the gall to call Misbah selfish and a coward. **** off Akhtar!
smash84
The Tiger King
well akhtar went bat **** over misbah for some reason.
Nobody really takes Akhtar seriously though. A bit of a loose cannon.
Agent Nationaux
International Coach
Akhtar talks crap most of the time (like most ex Pak cricketers).