*Official* World Test Championship Final 2021

[Magrat Garlick]

The earlier #1 ICC ranking mace meant that you had to play more tests to keep your team there. I remember BCCI suddenly adding additional tests to tours around 2009 and 2010. Now, NZC and its boss can juz enjoy scheduling 1 test series for the rest of their lives, with the new points system.

well it does need to be 2 for the points to count, and there's one 3 test series in there.

 

[honestbharani]

well it does need to be 2 for the points to count, and there's one 3 test series in there.

Matter of time Mags Although I hope that "time" is after I die, really. I have grown increasingly wary of LO cricket, especially ODIs. Tests and T20s are awesome but ODIs just seem to meander along a lot more than they used to, although it may well be just personal bias here.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

I share that opinion And tbf NZC seem to do too. They load up on T20Is and don't too often play 50-over games unless there is World Cup prepared.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

GDI, I'd really love a NZ vs Aus at home. There's none this WTC cycle

England vs India to kick off the second World Test Championship

Each win now worth 12 points, a draw worth four points and a tie worth six points

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BD, SA, SL at home (SA series could be great)
Ind, Eng, Pak away (all really challenging)

Geez it will almost be a decade since Australia played tests in NZ by the end of 2023 ...

 

[Fuller Pilch]

2035 I believe.

It was a joke, but probably not far from the truth.

 

[Victor Ian]

I don't like a draw being worth 4 points. I get the reasoning but some team is going to get jibbed of points due to rain. If they had an allowance to split points for weather draws, it might be fairer.

I also don't like 1 point per over penalty. If you could gain points back for being ahead, then maybe.

These are like stupid administration penalties rather than assessments of play.

 

[Victor Ian]

Regarding over rates... The Windies would have beat most everyone, all the time on the 80s but never play a WTC due to come by out of each game with negative points.

I'm not quite sure how they apply this penalty, so maybe it's no big deal. Has anyone a link that explains this part in finer details?

 

[Shady Slim]

To ensure the discrepancy in matches does not hurt the teams' WTC points tally, the ICC has decided to allot each match the same number of points. Under the proposed system,

wait a...

Teams will be ranked on the percentage of available points they won from the matches they have played.

that's fine then! but maybe don't put that two paragraphs down else people might not realise because it certaintly threw me at first ffs

 

[Bijed]

I also don't like 1 point per over penalty. If you could gain points back for being ahead, then maybe.

These are like stupid administration penalties rather than assessments of play.

Yeah, there definitely needs to be a mechanism in place to stop teams taking the mickey with slow over-rates, which they could be tempted to do now that the difference between a draw/loss could be qualification for the final down the line (fines would not work (and have never worked) at all as a deterrent and even having the captain banned for the final is obviously better than just not being in it), but the penalty they're suggesting just seems out of proportion with how much it actually matters.

I'm not quite in the 'over-rates literally don't matter' camp which seems prevalent on here, obviously it's very much secondary to the actual quality of cricket but being at a match with repeated slow play and general faffing does genuinely make the viewing experience a bit more annoying imo.

 

[Victor Ian]

I agree over rates matter. Sometimes I get my knickers in a knot though for what counts as slow. It should be something like, 'on average we expect you to bowl a team out in 1.25 days. If you go over this, then over rates matter. If you go under this, who gives a ****. I'm not really sure. I'm hoping others have better ideas, or, as asked for earlier, a link to the actual rules, because if I could read them I might find I have no issue at all and am only getting annoyed at my imaginary rules.

 

[Victor Ian]

One thing that pisses me off is when the batting team causes the problems. Batsmen who take forever to face up, or hit way too many runs. Do the umpires take this all into account, as in, properly record all the little non bowling team time wastages. I don't know.

 

[_00_deathscar]

One thing that pisses me off is when the batting team causes the problems. Batsmen who take forever to face up, or hit way too many runs. Do the umpires take this all into account, as in, properly record all the little non bowling team time wastages. I don't know.

So in short, what you’re saying is that the answer, as always, is Jadeja.

 

[Victor Ian]

OK. Aside from the level of punishment, I think I'm a bit less annoyed by the over rates thing.

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[The Hutt Rec]

OK. Aside from the level of punishment, I think I'm a bit less annoyed by the over rates thing.

Explained: Why the ICC’s ‘minimum over rate’ requirement is anything but

The thorny issue of over rates has once again been in the spotlight, with more than 30 overs of play lost across the first three days of the World Test Championship final.To bet on the World Test Championship final with our Match Centre partners bet365, head here.

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And that Lords test is a perfect example of why the penalty is needed ... it was excruciating to watch England's bowling efforts at times.

 

[ParwazHaiJunoon]

Pakistan have a sneaky good chance to get to the final with that schedule. If SA are still **** by the time India tour there they have a good chance to get their first ever win there, but then again I thought the same thing in 2018.

The schedule is brutally compressed though. India tour England for 5 tests ending September 14th, then the IPL starts 5 days later and goes on till October 15th, and 2 days after that its the t20 WC in UAE which ends in mid November. And NZ tour India immediately after that. Guys like Kohli, Bumrah and Rohit will be completely broken by the end of it unless they do some sensible rotation.

Don't you know by now that in 3rd decade of 21st century only those teams win away series who play their second string side?

You should be happy now