***Official*** Women's T20 World Cup 2020

[cnerd123]

the scoring patterns are different, yeah. fewer players that can go big means a score of 150 gets achieved in a different way than a score of 150 in men's cricket would. yes pitch conditions affect this too but good luck trying to quantify the effects 'bounce' and 'boundary size' in a way that a mathematical model is happy with and gives you sensible results (you can do it, but is it really worth your time?)

frankly they should have different DLS algorithms for each venue once a certain number of games in that format have been played on it. A men's T20I at the MCG shouldn't have the same calculations as one in Eden Park.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

that said SA have players able to clear the ropes against these bowlers so only themselves to blame here.

 

[Dendarii]

that said SA have players able to clear the ropes against these bowlers so only themselves to blame here.

I suppose some credit should go to Australia for pegging South Africa back early on.

But given that South Africa fell just five runs short, it certainly wasn't a completely unrealistic target. So while we can debate whether 98 off 13 overs is an appropriate equivalent to a full innings of 134 in a women's T20, it wasn't unreasonable. No method for dealing with rain-affected matches is ever going to be perfect, but DLS is the best that we have, and by and large it works pretty well as we don't end up with ridiculous scenarios like South Africa going from needing 22 off 13 balls to 22 off 1 in the 1992 World Cup.

 

[StephenZA]

Is anybody saying it was an unreasonable target? I never thought that. SA lost because we lost 3 quick wickets early and Aus bowled really well. Biggest difference between the sides I thought was fielding and running between the wickets, which Aus was far better at.

 

[cnerd123]

i thought it was a bit unfair on SA, but it seems appropriate in hindsight.

 

[Dendarii]

Is anybody saying it was an unreasonable target?

I don't think anyone is. But if it turns out that there isn't a version of DLS for women's matches, in this case at least it probably wouldn't matter all that much.

 

[TheJediBrah]

If we can use the same DLS for games at Eden Park as we do with games at the MCG, or for a game on a 350-par road as a 150-par dustbowl, then we can use the same DLS for men and women

 

[Burgey]

Find it odd Starc has come home to watch the final instead of playing his own game in SA.

 

[cnerd123]

Find it odd Starc has come home to watch the final instead of playing his own game in SA.

I think it's sweet.

 

[Daemon]

I think it's sweet.

Cute

 

[Daemon]

Cute

Your face is cute

 

[_Ed_]

Now a reported 75,000 tickets sold. Don't stop now, Melbourne.

 

[Burgey]

I know CHK has had this conversation with CricHQ regarding their DLS system on their scoring app - some HK based mathematicians/scientists offered to help collate date for the algorithm so that we have different DLS calculations for different age groups and mens/womens cricket. The scoring patterns in Men's T20 does not match those of U13 T20 or Women's T20. For example - a men's team starting on 60/0 in 6 overs could likely post 200 in men's cricket. The odds of U13s or Women's posting 200 after the same start is significantly less, because in those leagues a 60/0 start is a freakishly good one, akin to a 90/0 in men's T20.

What some of you seem to be unware of is that DLS calculation is not some sort of progression algorithm which assumes a team will continue on at the same rate that it started. It uses past results to determine a likely outcome:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/19577040/how-duckworth-lewis-stern-method-works


This is why you should have different DLS systems for Women's, Juniors, and I would argue even Associate cricket. The scoring patterns are not the same at all.

But, as StephenZA has pointed out, this is probably already being done. I have played around with the ICC DLS 3 software and they do have different algorithms for 50/45/40/20 over cricket, but i don't recall seeing a different algorithm for women's or junior cricket.

No one cares what happens in HK mate, be it cricket or anything else ffs.

 

[Burgey]

I think it's sweet.

I think it’s appalling.

Like your face and your posts.

 

[stephen]

Find it odd Starc has come home to watch the final instead of playing his own game in SA.

He just didn't want to be associated with the stench of the rest of our ODI side tbh.

Besides, it's usually the one who is the least talented in the relationship that does the supporting role

 

[cnerd123]

i like how you both can't seem to comprehend a man loving his wife so much he's willing to put his work aside in order to go support her in the biggest moment of her career

 

[Daemon]

Personally I think he should have stayed to knock over QdK's stumps for the 4th time

 

[Spark]

Decent start.

 

[Cabinet96]

First ball down the track and a boundary. Brendon McCullum could never.

 

[cnerd123]

Shades of 2003 right now