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**Official** West Indies in South Africa Thread

Tom Halsey

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But he isn't anywhere near the class of Langer, so that is pointless. It should be:

Would you rather have an out of form Hinds, or an inform Garrick?

True, I haven't seen Garrick lately, so I don't know if he is in form, but suppose he is. I would prefer Garrick.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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halsey said:
But he isn't anywhere near the class of Langer, so that is pointless. It should be:

Would you rather have an out of form Hinds, or an inform Garrick?

True, I haven't seen Garrick lately, so I don't know if he is in form, but suppose he is. I would prefer Garrick.
How does Garrick come into this?
 

Craig

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I dont see how Langer or Haddin come into this and I dont know how on earth you expect me to answer that question.

Hinds will play because Gayle isnt quite fit yet but tell me how will Hinds benefit batting down the order?

As far as I am concerned, if you dont preform you dont make the team, but in Hinds case there are some injury problems so he has to play.

Also apprantly Chanders is injured and so is Colleymore not quite fit. Who knows Brian Lara might be telling Rampaul he is making his Test debut?
 

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Craig said:
I dont see how Langer or Haddin come into this and I dont know how on earth you expect me to answer that question.
It's a situation with either playing an out-of-form opener or an in-form keeper/batsman. You fill in the blanks...

Hinds will play because Gayle isnt quite fit yet but tell me how will Hinds benefit batting down the order?
He won't see the new ball... :rolleyes:

As far as I am concerned, if you dont preform you dont make the team, but in Hinds case there are some injury problems so he has to play.
When you have as limited resources as the West Indies does, you can't afford to drop by that method.

Also apprantly Chanders is injured and so is Colleymore not quite fit. Who knows Brian Lara might be telling Rampaul he is making his Test debut? [/B]
Minor gripe, but it's Collymore.

Rampaul wasn't in the 12-man squad for this Test, so there was no way that he was debuting.
 

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SA 91/2 (26 overs)

JA Rudolph 8 not out
JH Kallis 0 not out

A Sanford 7-1-16-2

Sanford retained and Dillon dropped. A strange decision considering that Dillon bowled much better than Sanford in the last Test, but Sanford has bowled brilliantly in this game.

Smith bowled some useful seam-up too.
 

Adamc

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Finally some luck for the West Indies, with Gibbs adding only 11 after being dropped on 22. The dropped catch was basically a sitter, but forgivable since it was dropped by Mohammed on debut.
Sanford has bowled exceptionally well, quite consistent and getting some movement too. Graeme Smith's manner of dismissal was hardly surprising. WI with some momentum now, with two new batsman at the crease. Should be interesting watching Dave Mohammed bowl after lunch.
 

Craig

World Traveller
Mr Mxyzptlk said:
When you have as limited resources as the West Indies does, you can't afford to drop by that method.
So are you implying that because somebody isnt preforming they have to be picked because there is no-one else better? That mentalitly will get the WI no where and in fact Hinds shouldnt open, instead he is a number 3.

And you didnt read my part that about the injuries he must play.
 

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Craig said:
So are you implying that because somebody isnt preforming they have to be picked because there is no-one else better? That mentalitly will get the WI no where and in fact Hinds shouldnt open, instead he is a number 3.

And you didnt read my part that about the injuries he must play.
Yes, I am suggesting that for this particular tour. Hinds is more likely to perform than an inexperienced Carlton Baugh and he can bowl too.

You think Hinds could displace Sarwan at #3?
 

Craig

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I said Hinds is a number 3, nothing about displacing Sarwan. Problem is these two dont have settled batting positions, same as Ganga.
 

Craig

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Kallis retired hurt with a injured arm after being hit by Edwards. It swelled up pretty big so I doubt it is broken, but I'm not a doctor and they will x-ray it.

Mohammed looks to be a decent enough spinner. Certainly he's not afraid to flight it.
 

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Windies rolling back into it after some horrible player management.

SA 306/6 with SA losing 3 wickets for 1 run.

Edwards (2/67) is bowling brilliantly right now and Mohammed (2/70) takes his first 2 in Test cricket.

Sanford bowled horribly after lunch and is starting to show what he did in his previous Test chances.
 
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Adamc

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Great fightback by the West Indies, set up by an aggressive final spell from Fidel Edwards. He hit Rudolph twice and Mackenzie once in the space of an over before Rudolph was lbw to Mohammed in the next. I found it rather strange that SA sent in a night-watchman, especially with Edwards bowling up to 153 kph. He needed just one ball at Paul Adams, beating him for pace and swing. Mackenzie somehow managed to drag Mohammed's googly onto his stumps, an inexplicably lazy shot to waste his earlier efforts. Still a lot of work to be done though, Pollock and Boucher are no pushover, and Kallis (if he returns) will be one of the best ever batsmen to come in at 9. :P

Why can't I write night-watchman without the hyphen? It gets edited to nigh****chman :rolleyes:
 
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Adamc said:
Kallis (if he returns) will be one of the best ever batsmen to come in at 9. :P
When Lara came to bat with chicken pox v Australia earlier this year, he came out at #8 and the commentators described him as the greatest #8 batsman in cricket.

Why can't I write night-watchman without the hyphen? It gets edited to nigh****chman :rolleyes:
Credit that to the naughty-word finder.
 

marc71178

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Mr Mxyzptlk said:
When Lara came to bat with chicken pox v Australia earlier this year, he came out at #8 and the commentators described him as the greatest #8 batsman in cricket.
What rubbish - that accoloade is clearly the King of Spains!
 

Langeveldt

Soutie
Nigh****chman has got **** in it!!!

Disappointed they sent adams in, its a nice idea the nigh****chman, but i think it is getting less and less of a good idea as players give it 100% even right up until the last ball of the day...

Found Sanfords selection baffling.. he bowled awfully and 2 wickets flattered him.. Again the West Indies got carried away and just fed (this time it was McKenzie) short balls.. Id be tearing my hair out if i had to see them bowl all the time.. Dillon is a consistant operator, a class ahead of Sanford...

Dave Mohammed looks useful.. He didnt bowl much rubbish, reminded me of a left handed Ramnarine.. And thats exactly what WI need right now, a bit of control...

Rudolph back with a bang! I knew he would be! played beautifully but he will be tested more in future series'...
 

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Langeveldt said:
Nigh****chman has got **** in it!!!

Disappointed they sent adams in, its a nice idea the nigh****chman, but i think it is getting less and less of a good idea as players give it 100% even right up until the last ball of the day...

Found Sanfords selection baffling.. he bowled awfully and 2 wickets flattered him.. Again the West Indies got carried away and just fed (this time it was McKenzie) short balls.. Id be tearing my hair out if i had to see them bowl all the time.. Dillon is a consistant operator, a class ahead of Sanford...

Dave Mohammed looks useful.. He didnt bowl much rubbish, reminded me of a left handed Ramnarine.. And thats exactly what WI need right now, a bit of control...

Rudolph back with a bang! I knew he would be! played beautifully but he will be tested more in future series'...
To be fair Sanford bowled well before lunch, but after he provided some of the crappiest bowling I've seen.

Mohammed did bowl well but bowled too many 4 balls initially.

Drakes bowled well IMO. He stuck to a line and length and had too large a break between spells.

Edwards started poorly but bowled superbly late in the day. His third spell was also pretty decent.

Gayle was useful.

You talk as if the bowling was horrible. It certainly wasn't. That said, about 70% of the bowling was unpenetrative and about 25-30% of it (mostly from Sanford) was absolute rubbish.

Well batted by Rudolph.
 

marc71178

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Neil Pickup said:
Wonder how Smith got out...

Still so wonderful, Richard?
Repeat after me Neil - "It's not a flaw, no side has workedhim out yet so it can't possibly be!"
 

Langeveldt

Soutie
Neil Pickup said:
Wonder how Smith got out...

Still so wonderful, Richard?

I guess that was aimed at me :) As long as he stays scoring runs and being an inspirational young leader to the SA cricket team, i really dont care how he gets out! Im sure he is good enough to change his game when the runs stop coming...

Liam, I think the WI were much better than they were at Durbs, but they cant carry on dishing medium pace short stuff to McKenzie and Gibbs... Edwards is the only one quick enough to trouble them with the short ball...

Speaking of McKenzie, i think he has the nicest technique in cricket ...:D
 

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