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Zinzan
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Can't see why you wouldn't have Ryder opening tbh, he just seems such a natural ODI opener for mine. Generally plays late, relatively risk-free & doesn't rely on premeditating making him a perfect compliment for McCullum's dynamic and high-risk game. That said, still manages to score at a good clip.
I put my best batsman (Ryder) at 4.
Just think he's a little vulnerable against the swinging ball because he doesn't move his feet.
Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
I'm not sure I'm exactly happy with Ryder and McCullum opening at the moment. With the batting lineup so inexperienced, especially now that Styris is out for the next month, its a bit too much like throwing all our eggs in one basket. Sure, if they both come off then its game over before the end of the first 10. But McCullum is in a lean patch and Ryder has always been one to give the opposition plenty of chances.
Also, as talented as Broom and Guptill undoubtedly are, they leave our ODI lineup looking worringly similar to the underperforming NZA OD team that toured India recently. I'd prefer to get a bit of experience in there.
Ryder, Fulton, Flynn, Taylor, Sinclair, McCullum, Elliot, Vettori, Mills, Southee, Gillespie/Patel
Doesn't look like it'll matter for tomorrow anyway. Rain has been forecast again.
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Guptill and Broom deserve their chances, especially Broom.
I reckon they should be backed to do the job, especially against the West Indies. Perhaps if they were making their debuts against Australia or South Africa i'd be a little worried, but against the West Indies I don't see a problem. If it rains tomorrow i'll be ultra pissed...have my tickets ready and i'm looking forward to seeing Broom and Guppy bat.
I reckon they should be backed to do the job, especially against the West Indies. Perhaps if they were making their debuts against Australia or South Africa i'd be a little worried, but against the West Indies I don't see a problem. If it rains tomorrow i'll be ultra pissed...have my tickets ready and i'm looking forward to seeing Broom and Guppy bat.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Haven't paid too much attention to the domestic one dayers this season (other than Sinclair's form 
), so can anyone tell me how Fulton is doing? It surprises me that he hasn't been given a run given how much better than everyone else he was on that NZA tour.
), so can anyone tell me how Fulton is doing? It surprises me that he hasn't been given a run given how much better than everyone else he was on that NZA tour.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Yeah, I'm aware of Sinclair's form, as I said.
I really don't see why Fulton isn't playing though. Good domestic form, streets ahead in the A tour and a good ODI record. Broom was also pretty good on the A tour and probably deserved a chance, but I don't see why Guptill would be brought in for someone who bats #3 in ODIs when Fulton's ready and waiting.
Halfpast_Yellow
U19 Vice-Captain
Fulton is the new Sinclair.
Athlai
Not Terrible
Well I see it as McCullum can cover Oram while Guptill can cover McCullum. Taylor is a fine #3. Also while Fulton has had okay domestic form there are a few others who averaging more thus far:Yeah, I'm aware of Sinclair's form, as I said.
I really don't see why Fulton isn't playing though. Good domestic form, streets ahead in the A tour and a good ODI record. Broom was also pretty good on the A tour and probably deserved a chance, but I don't see why Guptill would be brought in for someone who bats #3 in ODIs when Fulton's ready and waiting.
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And then comes Fulton so it's hardly like he has found sublime form which would be the selectors chief concern.
Athlai
Not Terrible
Guptill should open
Athlai
Not Terrible
Guppy at 3 works too. No use fixing something that ain't broken.
Mr Casson
Cricketer Of The Year
Thanks for that, massive help.
S.P. Fleming
U19 Cricketer
Im not too fussed about McCullum opening if he can just settle down in the first 5 overs at least. he walks down the pitch practically every ball and its just not fooling anyone no more. If he calmsd down his natural game, along with Jesse's will see us score at a decent clip anyway. Really excited about Marty Guptill and Niel Broom getting a go, should be good viewing.
****, not the johnny raincloud again!
****, not the johnny raincloud again!
Athlai
Not Terrible
Tasty tip to all punters:
Multi betting on the big 3 from each team is looking to pay off big time:
Even if you hedge your bets and bat on any of the 3
For example:
To top score for each team would leave you something like this
$5 on Gayle to top score and McCullum =$84.40
$5 on Gayle to top score and Ryder= 84.40
$5 on Taylor to top score andGayle = 93.75
$5 on Chanders and McCullum = 90
$5 on Chanders and Ryder = 90
$5 on Chanders and Taylor = 100
$5 on Sarwan and McCullum = 101.25
$5 on Sarwan and Taylor = 112.50
$5 on Sarwan and Ryder = 101.25
While you don't have to hedge your bets being a gambling man keep in mind that those 3 are almost certainties to top score for West Indies in ANY game while on the Kiwi spectrum only Oram and How have top scored besides these men in recent memory and both are out. While further bets could be put on Guptill these just seem tantalizing.
This ^ betting would cost $45 and see a min. of $40 profit if you win (which is quite likely though not certain) and a possible $67 profit. You could also bet bigger or bet on less but have a go! I just might.
Multi betting on the big 3 from each team is looking to pay off big time:
Even if you hedge your bets and bat on any of the 3
For example:
To top score for each team would leave you something like this
$5 on Gayle to top score and McCullum =$84.40
$5 on Gayle to top score and Ryder= 84.40
$5 on Taylor to top score andGayle = 93.75
$5 on Chanders and McCullum = 90
$5 on Chanders and Ryder = 90
$5 on Chanders and Taylor = 100
$5 on Sarwan and McCullum = 101.25
$5 on Sarwan and Taylor = 112.50
$5 on Sarwan and Ryder = 101.25
While you don't have to hedge your bets being a gambling man keep in mind that those 3 are almost certainties to top score for West Indies in ANY game while on the Kiwi spectrum only Oram and How have top scored besides these men in recent memory and both are out. While further bets could be put on Guptill these just seem tantalizing.
This ^ betting would cost $45 and see a min. of $40 profit if you win (which is quite likely though not certain) and a possible $67 profit. You could also bet bigger or bet on less but have a go! I just might.
Mr Casson
Cricketer Of The Year
Haha, Ryder's been dropped for an alcohol related indiscretion. Poor bastard.
Surprised to see Sinclair get the recall, has he been gunning it in the Shield? Says he's going to bat at first drop, which puts paid to the Guptill at 3 idea. I suppose that makes it Guptill and McCullum opening.
Surprised to see Sinclair get the recall, has he been gunning it in the Shield? Says he's going to bat at first drop, which puts paid to the Guptill at 3 idea. I suppose that makes it Guptill and McCullum opening.
