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[Pratters]

Still, a coach can really help a player out by giving him time off and in that sense Chappell did Ganguly a favor (not everyone will understand, perhaps). By no means am I giving Chappell credit for the battle that Ganguly waged, but it's something that should be acknowledged IMO.

There might be a difference in the way you and I think on it really. There is a huge difference between saying Chappell helped Ganguly like you said earlier and saying Chappell's actions indirectly meant Ganguly came out a stronger cricketer. As I mentioned, there were so many other factors which lead to it and even if there was no Chappell, I doubt if Ganguly would not have been dropped (in some time) from the test team if he kept scoring poorly and then come out stronger.

A lot of factors can indirectly lead to some thing but it is not that big usually as it appears to be. It is a bit over the top to say Chappell helped Ganguly though his actions might have indirectly lead to it. Ganguly's ascenedancy as Indian captained was hastened by the Azharuddin match fixing fiasco. So did Azharuddin help Ganguly? Ganguly was dropped from the team after 1991-92. So did those people help Ganguly?

If Chappell had gone out of his way to chart out a plan for Ganguly (which may or maynot have included rest/dropping from the team) and helped Ganguly come back on track, I might have said Chappell helped Ganguly. However, he did not feel it necessary because he did not perceive Ganguly in the scheme of things. Ganguly's character and determination brought him back more than any thing and Chappell certainly didn't help Ganguly towards it. Help is a big word and it should be used very less when describing any one's actions.

Test cricket, like life, is all about character and usually, you help yourself more than any thing.

 

[adharcric]

I didn't phrase my thoughts too well and I applied a different connotation of the word "help". Basically, Ganguly can be thankful for being dropped from the side by Chappell as it gave him a chance to resurrect his career in the long run even though it temporarily threw him out of the team. In a sense, it was a blessing in disguise. I meant to credit Chappell's action of dropping Ganguly more so than Chappell himself, as we don't really know what his intentions were. (Well, I think I do but let's not go there)

 

[Nishant]

I didn't phrase my thoughts too well and I applied a different connotation of the word "help". Basically, Ganguly can be thankful for being dropped from the side by Chappell as it gave him a chance to resurrect his career in the long run even though it temporarily threw him out of the team. In a sense, it was a blessing in disguise. I meant to credit Chappell's action of dropping Ganguly more so than Chappell himself, as we don't really know what his intentions were. (Well, I think I do but let's not go there)

now that u ahve explained urself, id agree with u

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

and you could chuck in his brother Vishal Nagamootoo as i rate him as one of the best WI wicketkeepers

And all jokes aside, he is.

 

[ash chaulk]

And all jokes aside, he is.

oh but dont go taking a nagamootoo's seat he'll bash you lol

 

[silentstriker]

Haha, of course not, silly Liam.

Cold shower. You're an ugly Indian kid from Canada who is going to randomly message her on the internet. Yea, that'll work.

 

[Turbinator]

Cold shower. You're an ugly Indian kid from Canada who is going to randomly message her on the internet. Yea, that'll work.

And you saw me when...?

P.S. Any more untrue statements from you and I will resort to quoting that picture of you in the woods.

 

[silentstriker]

And you saw me when...?

P.S. Any more untrue statements from you and I will resort to quoting that picture of you in the woods.

It is mutually exclusive for you to be an Indian living in Canada and be remotely good looking. I've seen some Indians from Toronto. They define ugly.

 

[adharcric]

No time to come on CW these days.

 

[Turbinator]

It is mutually exclusive for you to be an Indian living in Canada and be remotely good looking. I've seen some Indians from Toronto. They define ugly.

Unfortunately you haven't seen me .

Anyways, don't say I didn't warn you against posting untrue statements...

(picture deleted because silentstriker replaced his picture with a picture of something better)

EDIT: Damnit, you smart son of a.........

 

[silentstriker]

Unfortunately you haven't seen me .

Anyways, don't say I didn't warn you against posting untrue statements...

(picture deleted because silentstriker replaced his picture with a picture of something better)

EDIT: Damnit, you smart son of a.........

Go up against me and you'll fall on your face son.

 

[Turbinator]

No chance bro... Time to post another one of your beautiful pictures . And since you think all Indo-canadians are ugly, I will post a pic of myself soon in OT, and maybe I'll leave it on long enough for you to drool over .

And now since you've officially lost this little arguement, I suggest we stop polluting this thread.

 

[silentstriker]

No chance bro... Time to post another one of your beautiful pictures .

Too old to matter. Plus my awesome shirt takes the eyes off my face and grabs all the attention.

 

[Dravid]

Turbinator...do you always like to take threads off topic? You do it with me too, and now SS

 

[Turbinator]

Turbinator...do you always like to take threads off topic? You do it with me too, and now SS

Okay omg, I wasn't the one who started it, look for yourself...

Btw, SS I am playing bro, don't take it personally.

 

[adharcric]

Shut up guys.

 

[honestbharani]

The rumour mill has it that Sachin will be batting in the middle order and that Uthappa and Joginder Sharma are almost certain to play.


I guess the side will look something like this:


Sourav
Uthappa
Gambhir
Sachin
Dravid
Dhoni
Joginder
Harbhajan
Agarkar
Zaheer
Sreesanth



Unless they decide that Dravid or Sachin has to bat at 3 and play Raina. The fielding will be a worry with such a side, but Uthappa and Gambhir are apparently pretty good, so let's hope things will work out.

Maybe they will drop Agarkar and play the extra batter in Raina or Kaarthick. It will help the batting and fielding for sure, but it would mean ten overs from Ganguly, Sachin, Raina and Uthappa. It will be interesting to see what combination India goes in with.


Personally, given that the track looks (from all accounts) a batting beauty, I would prefer the extra batter and us chasing if we win the toss.


BTW, is this a day game or d/n game?

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Darren Sammy injured; Dwayne Smith recalled.

 

[Nishant]

No chance bro... Time to post another one of your beautiful pictures . And since you think all Indo-canadians are ugly, I will post a pic of myself soon in OT, and maybe I'll leave it on long enough for you to drool over .

And now since you've officially lost this little arguement, I suggest we stop polluting this thread.

Never really imagined SS like that! Not to say that its bad or anything...but u know wat i mean!

 

[Nishant]

The rumour mill has it that Sachin will be batting in the middle order and that Uthappa and Joginder Sharma are almost certain to play.


I guess the side will look something like this:


Sourav
Uthappa
Gambhir
Sachin
Dravid
Dhoni
Joginder
Harbhajan
Agarkar
Zaheer
Sreesanth



Unless they decide that Dravid or Sachin has to bat at 3 and play Raina. The fielding will be a worry with such a side, but Uthappa and Gambhir are apparently pretty good, so let's hope things will work out.

Maybe they will drop Agarkar and play the extra batter in Raina or Kaarthick. It will help the batting and fielding for sure, but it would mean ten overs from Ganguly, Sachin, Raina and Uthappa. It will be interesting to see what combination India goes in with.


Personally, given that the track looks (from all accounts) a batting beauty, I would prefer the extra batter and us chasing if we win the toss.


BTW, is this a day game or d/n game?

do u think that both gambhir and utappa will play? never know! But, i think they always favour Raina for some reason ( dats not a good thing)!