***Official*** West Indies in India 2014

[YorksLanka]

Fixed.

not sure about that but the one thing that did look dodgy was the "misfield" from pollard when he got the ball then threw it in front of him and casually lobbed it in after the batsmen took the extra run??

 

[brockley]

Samuels 30 dot balls,then the mother of all collapses.

 

[Beamer]

Typical collapse from us really in the face of some decent spin and reverse swing bowling. Every time they remind us how good they can be in one match they have to show us how bad they can be in the next.

I'm really not sure why they changed the batting order after winning so comprehensively but I actually like the look of Polly at number 3, he didn't look at all out of place IMHO and actually seems a much better batsman when he has time to get himself in. We've got too many bits and pieces all rounders in the team, it was obvious today when all we really needed to do was get through a 3 or 4 over period when the ball was changed and the likes of Sammy and Russell simply aren't good enough to do it. I think Simmons has to come in for one of them next game.

Still pleased with the bowling though, we look a pretty good unit in the field even without Narine.

 

[Julian87]

Can not put into words how pointless it is having Andre Russell in a lineup that already carries 6 other blokes who can bowl seam up. If they want a bit part all rounder it should be someone who can bowl spin, or alternatively they could pick an actual ****ing batsman; like many even the bloke who averages above 40 but can't get a run in the team.

 

[Beamer]

Can not put into words how pointless it is having Andre Russell in a lineup that already carries 6 other blokes who can bowl seam up. If they want a bit part all rounder it should be someone who can bowl spin, or alternatively they could pick an actual ****ing batsman; like many even the bloke who averages above 40 but can't get a run in the team.

They should play one of Sammy or Russell depending on who is in good form and bring in a batsman who can actually rotate the strike (in this squad Simmons is the best bet really).

 

[Jono]

Another hindsight post from me, but went to bed with about 15 overs left, and the way they were playing Mishra really seemed like that run rate was going to climb soon. They were just not rotating the strike at all.

Still should have won with Samuels in, pretty pathetic collapse. But it just looked so possible that they'd do this, even with 7 wickets in hand.

 

[Prince EWS]

Can not put into words how pointless it is having Andre Russell in a lineup that already carries 6 other blokes who can bowl seam up. If they want a bit part all rounder it should be someone who can bowl spin, or alternatively they could pick an actual ****ing batsman; like many even the bloke who averages above 40 but can't get a run in the team.

They basically pick Russell as a specialist finisher. I think they believe the allrounders in the lineup give them this luxury, but they'd be much better off using the likes of Pollard, Bravo and Sammy as finishers where they're better suited and picking another proper top order batsman.

Probably not a popular opinion but I'd seriously think about trialling Chanderpaul or even Sarwan in an anchor role leading into the World Cup.

 

[WindieWeathers]

Well it was a very disappointing end to a game we dominated the majority of. Clearly as stated above Russell is adding nothing to the side and i fully expect him to make way for Simmons in the next game which should improve our top order. Clearly Amby and the coaches have worked wonders where the fielding and bowling is concerned..but there's still work to be done where chasing is concerned.

Samuels let himself down..for me if he can't get off strike instead of eating up ball after ball he might aswell just attack..because no-one would have blamed him if he'd gotten out with the run-rate still in our favor...but the added pressure clearly hampered our chase.

I'd also look at bringing in Roach or Holder tbh. Rampaul is consistent and has the ability to get early wickets but Kemar's average at one day level is better for a reason...he has the ability to win us the game and a spell from him backed up by Taylor (who is doing really well at the moment) could prove vital!!..

It's amazing to think we're fighting this hard and yet we're missing to key players in Gayle and Narine..if Narine were there India don't get 260...and also Gayle could have given us an extra 30 runs too.

Simmons
Smith
Pollard
Darren Bravo
Samuels
Dwayne Bravo
Ramdin (Wk)
Sammy
Taylor
Benn
Roach/Rampaul

 

[Energetic]

Match looked dodgy though its unlikely with you know what. West Indies are known for their inconsistency and are rated the worst team amongst the top 8 club for a reason. Can't stand West Indies Cricket to be honest as their analyst overrate their team all the time.

 

[YorksLanka]

Sammy's hopeless shot lost the game for the West Indies IMO, if he kept his head i reckon they would have won the game..he should know better...

 

[Dan]

Well it was a very disappointing end to a game we dominated the majority of. Clearly as stated above Russell is adding nothing to the side and i fully expect him to make way for Simmons in the next game which should improve our top order. Clearly Amby and the coaches have worked wonders where the fielding and bowling is concerned..but there's still work to be done where chasing is concerned.

Samuels let himself down..for me if he can't get off strike instead of eating up ball after ball he might aswell just attack..because no-one would have blamed him if he'd gotten out with the run-rate still in our favor...but the added pressure clearly hampered our chase.

I'd also look at bringing in Roach or Holder tbh. Rampaul is consistent and has the ability to get early wickets but Kemar's average at one day level is better for a reason...he has the ability to win us the game and a spell from him backed up by Taylor (who is doing really well at the moment) could prove vital!!..

It's amazing to think we're fighting this hard and yet we're missing to key players in Gayle and Narine..if Narine were there India don't get 260...and also Gayle could have given us an extra 30 runs too.

Simmons
Smith
Pollard
Darren Bravo
Samuels
Dwayne Bravo
Ramdin (Wk)
Sammy
Taylor
Benn
Roach/Rampaul

I agree with most of what you've said here -- Russell doesn't do much, Samuels needs to rotate the strike, Roach needs to be in the side (and I will even concede that Narine, had he played, probably would have restricted the Indian batting line-up a bit better, though I don't know if Benn really bowled that badly).

Having said that, I'm not quite sure about the line-up you've suggested. I'd be thinking something like this come World Cup time:

1. Bravo Snr (Simmons)
2. Bravo Jnr
3. Chanderpaul
4. Samuels
5. Ramdin +*
6. Pollard
7. Sammy
8. Taylor
9. Narine (Benn)
10. Roach
11. Rampaul (Holder)

 

[hendrix]

I don't think that slogger Simmons is the answer, especially when the Windies already have Smith there in the pinch-hit role. One of the two is fine but I think you want a proper batsman there. Pollard I believe has the potential to be a proper batsman and deserves a go but Smith and Simmons have already shown that they bring little more than a power game.

How's Blackwood in limited overs?

 

[WindieWeathers]

I don't think that slogger Simmons is the answer, especially when the Windies already have Smith there in the pinch-hit role. One of the two is fine but I think you want a proper batsman there. Pollard I believe has the potential to be a proper batsman and deserves a go but Smith and Simmons have already shown that they bring little more than a power game.

How's Blackwood in limited overs?

Have to disagree..Simmons is not just a "slugger"..the guy knows how to build an innings and i think in 2012 or 2013 he was our most productive ODI batsman. We need another opener alongside Smith. Obviously normally that would be Gayle or even Powell but both are out for different reasons so for me for these series Simmons needs to play.

Blackwell hasn't really done much in limited overs cricket thus far which is surprisring considering his ability to score quickly but i'm sure over time he'll improve in that department. The one i would consider is Leon Johnson!!..he can make a big impact when he's in the mood.

 

[Prince EWS]

Johnson and Blackwood both have really poor List A records.

I think the West Indies will be looking at something like for the World Cup:

1 Smith
2 Gayle
3 Bravo
4 Samuels
5 Ramdin
6 Bravo
7 Pollard
8 Sammy/Holder
9 Taylor
10 Roach/Rampaul
11 Narine/Benn

Gayle being out of this series allows them to trial their reserve stock, but they've elected to trial Russell by sticking him at 8 which has just been a waste of the opportunity IMO.

 

[Prince EWS]

I agree with most of what you've said here -- Russell doesn't do much, Samuels needs to rotate the strike, Roach needs to be in the side (and I will even concede that Narine, had he played, probably would have restricted the Indian batting line-up a bit better, though I don't know if Benn really bowled that badly).

Having said that, I'm not quite sure about the line-up you've suggested. I'd be thinking something like this come World Cup time:

1. Bravo Snr (Simmons)
2. Bravo Jnr
3. Chanderpaul
4. Samuels
5. Ramdin +*
6. Pollard
7. Sammy
8. Taylor
9. Narine (Benn)
10. Roach
11. Rampaul (Holder)

You'd leave Gayle out of the World Cup?

Bit harsh on Smith considering he just scored 97 too, but I do kind of agree in that he just gives too many chances to be worth it unless he's striking at 120+

 

[Jono]

Not playing because of a cyclone? Bunch of pussies.

 

[Dan]

You'd leave Gayle out of the World Cup?

Bit harsh on Smith considering he just scored 97 too, but I do kind of agree in that he just gives too many chances to be worth it unless he's striking at 120+

Forgot Gayle tbh. Knew I was missing someone but cbf'd to work it out.

 

[harsh.ag]

Windies A playing against SL A. Shillingford is back with a 5-fer in the first innings, but the Windies are really struggling - on a follow on.

 

[GGG]

Bound to happen I guess West Indies in India 2014-15 : West Indies to pull out of India tour | Cricket News | India v West Indies | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[Spikey]

thank god. i need my sri lanka fix