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*Official* Warm up Matches Discussion
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adub
International Captain
Just on Starc taking too long to be a danger...
He has opened the bowling now in 11 test innings. In those 11 innings he never taken a wicket in his first spell.
In those 11 innings he has taken a wicket inside 30 overs twice, and inside 80 overs only 6 times. (22.4, 23.1, 32.3, 42.1, 51.6, 56.2)
2 of those 6 times he went on to take a 5-fer. In each instance his second wicket came after the 100th over.
To be fair he did take wickets in his first spell in three of 6 innings where he has come on as a first change bowler (his first three tests v NZ and WI) but failed to take any in two others.
When he gets it right there's no doubt he can destroy a lower order, but for mine he just doesn't do enough to threaten top order bats yet. He's got a future, but he's not the finished item yet and I think we have more dangerous options at the moment.
He has opened the bowling now in 11 test innings. In those 11 innings he never taken a wicket in his first spell.
In those 11 innings he has taken a wicket inside 30 overs twice, and inside 80 overs only 6 times. (22.4, 23.1, 32.3, 42.1, 51.6, 56.2)
2 of those 6 times he went on to take a 5-fer. In each instance his second wicket came after the 100th over.
To be fair he did take wickets in his first spell in three of 6 innings where he has come on as a first change bowler (his first three tests v NZ and WI) but failed to take any in two others.
When he gets it right there's no doubt he can destroy a lower order, but for mine he just doesn't do enough to threaten top order bats yet. He's got a future, but he's not the finished item yet and I think we have more dangerous options at the moment.
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Cabinet96
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Meh, the point is it's just plain up arrogant and ignorant to say he can't run through a side, when he has before and will probably do again.
Adders
Cricketer Of The Year
I actually wasn't saying that, but to use "he took more 6 fers than the Eng bowlers in the last Ashes" is an incredibly flawed argument for obvious reasons.....it's got hair all over it mate. No POM bowler went 0/121 either.
There are far better statements you could be making to make your case for Siddle.
flibbertyjibber
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An Aussie collapse here would put Lehmann under pressure. They need a couple of 50's from the top 4 here.
At least Lehmann has got the Aussies conserving energy ahead of T1 - hit boundaries and then you don't have to run 
14 fours out of a total of 69 (13 off the bat)
I didn't see the scorecard until an hour ago, and it's one of the weirdest scorecards I've seen in a long time - 5 consecutive ducks, but not one golden duck and obviously no hattricks.
14 fours out of a total of 69 (13 off the bat) I didn't see the scorecard until an hour ago, and it's one of the weirdest scorecards I've seen in a long time - 5 consecutive ducks, but not one golden duck and obviously no hattricks.
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Honestly, Watson's been prima facie hitting them well for some time. The problem isn't that he's not in form, it's that even when in form, he's one of those guys who switches into a period where it's like he forgets he's 60not and bats like he's on nought. Smashing a popgun county attack around just muddies the waters now.
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Clarke in at 4. Big clue as to the ashes?
AlanJLegend
U19 Vice-Captain
Wouldn't surprise me at all. I really don't think his form in the past couple years is solely because of batting at 5 (surely would have had similar results anywhere from 4-6) and if anything this whole mantra that Clarke CANNOT be moved from 5 just restricts our team balance. I would have no problem with any of Hughes, Khawaja, Smiffy or even Wade batting at 5.