yeah but the match in Brisbane Australia would have won if not for rain :P:P:PReallyCrazy said:
Sanz said:Good Job - Now go and tell your friend (Who accused Gangs of Chickening out) the no. of times Sourav Ganguly has promoted/demoted himself in this tour depending on his team's needs.
While you are at it - Please tell him how many times that Chicken (ponting) came out to bat at no.3 during his 3 test tours of India.
but the point is validNeil Pickup said:
Ponting made his Test debut before Ganguly, so you cant complain about the experience. I think he had played around 40+ test before his last trip to India. Ganguly has visited Australia only twice, as compared to Ponting who has visited India at least 5 times since his debut. So you can't really complain about experience.age_master said:
Last time I checked, India took the lead in the first innings at Brisbane and our flat track bullies Dravid and Lax were playing well in the second innings as well, with Sachin, Gang, Parthiv still to come.age_master said:
yes but the reain had broken Australias momentum more than india's, and looking At australia's position in the 2nd innings, india were gonna need alot of runs - Australias 2nd innings had Waugh and Martyn going well with Katich, Gilchrist and the handy bichel and an in form gillespie (he did average 36 for the series)Sanz said:
and... Ganguly grew up with teh more difficalt conditions in india, playing pace and spin on the spinning tracks, ponting grew up on pace wickets without many spinners, hes leart alot about playing spin - pontings ODI average in india for the last 10 times he has played thers has been 42ReallyCrazy said:
Exactly. And by extension, all the Indian supporters getting ropable about "arrogant Aussies" and how the judgement of how India performed at the WACA is unfair, seem to be overreacting. Look, it's acknowledged that India are weaker on these kind of pitches. We all know it. If I can say that, but also admit that the Aussies are weaker on slow, turning pitches, does that make me an arrogant Aussie? How exactly are these words going to be forced back down my throat? I don't see where all the defensiveness is coming from.jamesryfler said:
Er.... :Ojagaways said:
Many of your claims are just outright bizarre, but this one at least makes some sense. It's not fair to call Ganguly a coward for demoting himself in the order - we've, earlier in the summer seen him promote himself UP the order to protect Tendulkar, when he was woefully out of form and vulnerable to the Aussie bowlers, at a time when they had their tails up and were on top, and it seems he's never reluctant to throw himself in when he thinks the team needs him.Sanz said:
Ok, that's a pretty good post, and a reasonable attempt at conciliation.Jono said:
Not to forget that he is also known as a pathetic and timid player of SPIN. As for the mental condition - Go back to page 70 and read your own post to find your own mental condition. :PKenny said:
Then you have clearly missed couple of his matches as captain. Start watching his matches again. He has batted at #3,#4,#5, & #6 as captain.
Yeah - When you sit out of a game, it's the rotation policy, when we do it, we are scared, when you sledge, it is mental disintegration, when we give you back, it is unprofessional, When you cheat, it's honest mistake, when we make mistake we are cheats. Good going..
No, he doesn't bat at no. 3. Gangs is an opener in ODIs. Why dont you check the VB series and tell us how many times Gangs has batted at no. 3 in last 7 games ?? Let me tell you, It's 1. Out of 7 innings he has batted at no. 3 only once.It seems to me that it was ponting who 'chickened' out because his performance at 'PERTH' has been pathetic to say the least, his highest score is 39 with an avg of 24.85. It tells us who is afraid of playing at PERTH.
Chicken must have suffered a heart attack after john buchanan reminded him of his batting records at WACA.
Oh sure - When you are bowled out, it's because of the rain, when we are bowled out it is because your fast bowlers have bowled well. When you lose a test, it's because you were given a flat track, when we lose a test it's because we can't play fast bowling. When your last recognized pair was on the crease, they were going to score lot of runs, when 2 of our main batsmen were still at the crease and 2 more were waiting in the dressing room, we were going to fell short of runs.age_master said:
