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marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Pratyush said:
If you take note of the Sehwag;s after 15 over strike rate
Well, you've not got much to play with.

In the last 23 knocks, he's only made it to the 15 over mark 6 times (and one of those he was dismissed off the 1st ball of the 16th over)
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Tim said:
I still think though that in the ODI series he could have made a bit of a difference..but its not to be.
It came about a month too early for him really - when the squads were selected there was absolutely no way they could take a gamble on him, because he hadn't proved he could come back into International Cricket.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
marc71178 said:
Well, you've not got much to play with.

In the last 23 knocks, he's only made it to the 15 over mark 6 times (and one of those he was dismissed off the 1st ball of the 16th over)
Of course because his role is to provide blazing starts. I know he doesnt last more than 15 overs a lot.
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
TEC makes sense from time to time.

However, his premature relegation of Watson to the "rubbish" category could well haunt him for years and years.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Tim said:
Get over it Marc, they've picked the players and now they've gotta back them. Quite frankly Vettori looks more likely to take a wicket than any other bowler in the team right now.
Yes, but did I ever question his ODI selection?

It the lack of Kumble that's the problem...
 

tooextracool

International Coach
social said:
TEC makes sense from time to time.

However, his premature relegation of Watson to the "rubbish" category could well haunt him for years and years.
oh no i dont deny that watson will never develop into anything as a bowler. i do however maintain that he is very very poor with the bal ATM, and as such does not merit selection in the side as a bowling or any type of all rounder.
 

Tim

Cricketer Of The Year
If the World XI do continue to bat poorly, then Vettori lower down the order could prove to be of some value. He appears to be one of the few players carrying form into this series and he's been in very good batting form recently.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
marc71178 said:
Which completely contradicts your previous argument!
What? Some one made the point that Sehwag's strike rate is not representative as he does not last more than 15 overs usually. I said it very much is as he plays more or less the same way all through.

I havent contradicted any thing.

Dont start making things up.
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
zinzan12 said:
And Vettori bowled more at the death in the first game :p
And You forget, Murali has bowled in all 3 ODIs with the Power Play in place with the lack of a spread out field to save runs while the Aussies having been smashing the opening bowlers at 7 an over up until then !!
 

greg

International Debutant
Pratyush said:
What? Some one made the point that Sehwag's strike rate is not representative as he does not last more than 15 overs usually. I said it very much is as he plays more or less the same way all through.
That doesn't make sense. The reason the scoring rate drops after the first 15 overs is only partly to do with "the way the batsman plays". The main reason is, unsurprisingly, because there are 3 extra fielders on the boundary - which usually forces the batsman to play a different way because otherwise he'll just get himself out. Which Sehwag usually does.
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
After todays game Kallis has to be the number 1 player to be carrying the drinks with either Pollock or Akhtar. Considering Vettori will be needed to fill up the second spinning option although the SCG in the last few years has tended to favour seam at least in the intial 2 days of a Test.

But from what I heard on the TV commentary, the Skipper apparently picks the Team from the 13.

And Smith unlikely to drop even 1 and definitely not 2 of his countrymen ,given Dave Richardson and Jonty Rhodes put a lot of effort in getting 4 South Africans in to this Team(including Boucher) !! :D :D
 
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Prince EWS

Global Moderator
After todays game Kallis has to be the number 1 player to be carrying the drinks with either Pollock or Akhtar.
I assure you that Kallis will do a whole lot better if he gets picked in the test. He looks lost in one dayers sometimes, and can get bogged down, but hes a great test batsman and deserves his spot over the likes of Inzamam or Lara.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
greg said:
That doesn't make sense. The reason the scoring rate drops after the first 15 overs is only partly to do with "the way the batsman plays". The main reason is, unsurprisingly, because there are 3 extra fielders on the boundary - which usually forces the batsman to play a different way because otherwise he'll just get himself out. Which Sehwag usually does.
So you are saying Sehwag gets out after the 15 overs because he has to change the way he plays? Explain his high strike rate in test matches and his high strike rate in the one dayers even after the first 15 overs.
 

Adamc

Cricketer Of The Year
JASON said:
After todays game Kallis has to be the number 1 player to be carrying the drinks with either Pollock or Akhtar. Considering Vettori will be needed to fill up the second spinning option although the SCG in the last few years has tended to favour seam at least in the intial 2 days of a Test.

But from what I heard on the TV commentary, the Skipper apparently picks the Team from the 13.

And Smith unlikely to drop even 1 and definitely not 2 of his countrymen ,given Dave Richardson and Jonty Rhodes put a lot of effort in getting 4 South Africans in to this Team(including Boucher) !! :D :D
On the basis of three ODIs Kallis, Pollock, and Akhtar are suddenly not good enough to play a six-day Test? For someone who seems to have a vast knowledge of the game's history, you of all people should recognise the difference between one-day and five-day (or in this case, six-day) cricket.
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
Demolition Man said:
Test match should be alot closer.

So who is Man of the series ??
Gilly , Watson , Vettori , Murali ?

EDIT-- barring Watson taking a couple of late wickets, gilly should have it in the bag.
Murali getting an award in Australia ?

Yeah Right !

John Howard and Darrell Hair must be the adjudicators !! :D :D
 

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