Viscount Tom
International Debutant
Wrights done enough to get into this side there are proper batsmen in this squad who shouldn't even be there.
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**Official** Super 8 Group 1 Discussion - Eng, WI, SL and NZ
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stumpski
International Captain
I'm sure he wouldn't have done if we hadn't been 0-2 after three balls. I can see why they didn't want Morgan batting in the first over, but obviously having him come in halfway through the innings wasn't ideal either.
Cabinet96
Hall of Fame Member
The super 8 groups were decided in advance. All the teams in one group finishing top in the previous round, was just how it panned out.
wpdavid
Hall of Fame Member
Just back - and we appear to have fallen 15 short despite only losing 4 wickets, which seems very odd. All down to Bairstow's plodding along for five and a bit overs and leaving us too much to do?
And I didn't see the WI innings, but how exactly does a hack like Johnson Charles end up scoring 80 at some stupidly high RR? It's one thing to be Gayle'd in these games, but that looks like a scandalous effort from our bowlers.
And I didn't see the WI innings, but how exactly does a hack like Johnson Charles end up scoring 80 at some stupidly high RR? It's one thing to be Gayle'd in these games, but that looks like a scandalous effort from our bowlers.
NasserFan207
International Vice-Captain
What exactly has he done?
chicane
State Captain
Speaking of which, is there anything in the laws preventing fielders from crossing the ropes in anticipation of a ball headed for 6 that could be parried back to the field?
They were decided in advance? That seems illogical.
And on another note, why do I keep hearing that Southee's over going for 13 was a fine effort? Bumble kept crapping on about it, and his nonsensicle 'no boundaries' line, now I read it in our news agencies. He gifted Sri Lanka an eight-ball over. Yes he hit the hole a few times but those were costly, no matter how much he wants to argue where the wide line is.
Viscount Tom
International Debutant
Scored plenty of runs or did you somehow miss that?
Cabinet96
Hall of Fame Member
Yup there is. In fact, under the new MCC laws that were brought in in 2011, that should have been six IMO, as his foot was touching the rope just before he jumped.
It's basically just to help traveling fans. So for example, if you wanted to go to Sri Lanka, you'd in advance know where and when NZ were playing.
I think it's quite beneficial, actually.
Ah right, interesting. Seems like you might deny a side of a semi-final when they might have made it against other opposition, but I can see the logic. I guess on their day all eight teams are capable of beating the rest. Sri Lanka and West Indies had rain affected matches in their pools so it seems only fair they catch a break in a Super Eights group with us and England.
NasserFan207
International Vice-Captain
Guess I have, when has he ever scored a substantial innings against proper bowling?
If you want some allrounder with slogging potential Graham Napier is far better anyway.
Pup Clarke
Cricketer Of The Year
Don't think Wright has ever faced Sarwan before tbh.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
Johnson Charles and Rob Nicol both score internation 50s on the same day. World is ****ed.
Senile Sentry
International Debutant
weird. losing by a good margin despite losing just 4 wickets smacks of lack of planning. Eng were never ahead at any point. excellent innings by Morgan but Bairstows was as bad.
NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
I don't get this theory in T20 matches. Wins shouldn't automatically occur if a team batting second lasts the 20 overs with just a few down. Eng just didn't bat as fast as Windies who didn't lose that many wickets either, its as simple as that.
Two early wickets didn't help..
Senile Sentry
International Debutant
Indeed. That is exactly what I was pointing out. The acceleration came only when the match was well and truly lost, and while the final margin of 15 might suggest it was close, it wasn't at any point in time. A margin of 15 in T20s is similar to 40 runs in ODIs. Imagine a situation where Team A batting first scores 300/5 in 50 overs in excellent batting conditions and Team B scoring 260 but at loss of 4 wickets.
It is not as if England did not have hitting ability below the order. Hales was tiring towards the end, there were the likes of Buttler, Samit Patel, Swann, Broad etc who can pack in a heavy handle as well. English batsmen mismanaged the chase, there could be no doubt about that.