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** Official ** Sri Lanka in New Zealand tour
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bryce
International Regular
Kent said:
i think this might be just beacuse of ND's 2nd innings collapse, i heard nick horsley(who got 38 and 2 in the match) say it was a pretty good wicket to bat on and the aucklanders showed that aswell, but if the weather is affecting it then it might be a bit different because we have been having crap weather here lately.
correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Hamilton & The Basin the only 2 specific cricket grounds???????????????? Surely they need to get it right & provide the best surfaces at those grounds - otherwise what a wasted investment let alone disgrace..............bryce said:
logically yes I'd agree with you, but I prefer to have an on going introduction into the higher level for the fringe players - hence my calls re squad selections & tour matches.............Tim said:
IMO the NZL selection process has stagnated & dug us a hole & catch 22 situation...........as I said b4 we won't know until we do pick them...............
bottom line on current form I'd have How & Fulton in the side, (but I'd have already debuted Fulton v BAN)...............
IMO Papps' form does not warrant selection even tho' he has done nothing 'wrong' to be dropped as such - he's simply out of form IMO..............
Bond remains a BIG if - Astle was not out thru' injury for as long as he will have been & he has yet to recover any sort of form at Test level (even tho' he started well in ENG)...........and this answers my problem with Astle atm........
bryce
International Regular
yeah something along those lines, it is a poor effort, the hamilton ground has always had problems ranging from the draining to 'the crater', but it think it is more to do with the weather atm since there have been serveral financial investments to try and get it up to international cricket standard.anzac said:
Tim
Cricketer Of The Year
I might be wrong but I feel the chances of Craig McMillan playing test cricket again are seriously low. Im sure even the hierachy down at NZC Headquarters are beginning to realise just how he managed to average 43 in test cricket.
A couple of years ago I don't think we could have afforded to drop McMillan & don't get me wrong, it's ok at the moment..but not brilliant, but the point is that there are some options opening up for the selectors in the middle order.
A couple of years ago I don't think we could have afforded to drop McMillan & don't get me wrong, it's ok at the moment..but not brilliant, but the point is that there are some options opening up for the selectors in the middle order.
Tim
Cricketer Of The Year
Return to form? lol he's never been in any kind of form. McMillan's career story has been 1 good knock followed by 9 or 10 ridiculously low scores.
Right now he is probably at an all time low...and going by the type of character he is, he may struggle to get out of it. If he does, then maybe he will deserve his spot back.
Right now he is probably at an all time low...and going by the type of character he is, he may struggle to get out of it. If he does, then maybe he will deserve his spot back.
sportychic33
State 12th Man
Tim, have to agree with you about Macca being at an all time low, he isn't getting in the team. His batting is so frustrating, he seems to play some good shots, looks like he might be getting his eye in, then plays a stupid shot like a reverse sweep.
Maybe he should take a long break over the Sri Lankan tour, play some games for Canterbury and refocus on what he wants to achieve and how he is going to do it.
Maybe he should take a long break over the Sri Lankan tour, play some games for Canterbury and refocus on what he wants to achieve and how he is going to do it.
the general consensus seems to be for him to play his natural attacking game.........from memory that would mean a lot of shots going for the boundaries and not a great deal of strike rotation or cheeky singles to break up the bowler's rythmn...........
that being the case why not 'convert' him to an opener???????
firstly at OD level and then to the longer game if successful.............
IMO if the selectors start to blood new faces then Macca's chances of making it back as a Test middle order batsman are slim to say the least........
IMO he would currently rank behind Fulton, Marshal, Vincent & Taylor on the past 2 season's form, then you have the potential of the likes of Stewart, Ryder, Nichol to emerge while they try out the 1st group........finally you have so called stop gap measures like Gaffaney, Jones etc...........
bottom line it's a long way to the top.....................
that being the case why not 'convert' him to an opener???????
firstly at OD level and then to the longer game if successful.............
IMO if the selectors start to blood new faces then Macca's chances of making it back as a Test middle order batsman are slim to say the least........
IMO he would currently rank behind Fulton, Marshal, Vincent & Taylor on the past 2 season's form, then you have the potential of the likes of Stewart, Ryder, Nichol to emerge while they try out the 1st group........finally you have so called stop gap measures like Gaffaney, Jones etc...........
bottom line it's a long way to the top.....................
another option would be to do what we have been admiring the AUS lineup about................'convert' top order batsmen with good technique & temperament into middle order options.............
players like Papps, How, Vincent, Cumming, Fulton, McIntosh & Gaffaney have all posted big tons..........atm Papps & McIntosh are out of touch, but the rest are still scoring runs..............as I've said b4 we do not have enough depth to be able to ignore form players simply on the basis that we either don't know how they may go or because they are seen as being an opener / top order.........IMO we should consider styles, balance & conversion rates as well as form into deciding who we would prefer in what positions.............
we've already mentioned the AUS lineup (Boon also spent time as an opener b4 dropping down the order), Vaughan has recently done so for ENG, Butcher used to bat higher from memory, as did Kirsten & Cullinan for RSA........IND has a number of players that have been used anywhere in the top 5 - Sehwag, Tendulkar, Ganguly, Dravid, Laxxman & now Yuvraj..........
so far as the NZL options go How & Fulton are presumably the more attacking style so perhaps they may be more productive not opening.........perhaps we could even see something like....
Fleming
Cumming
Sinclair
How
McIntosh
Fulton
McCullum
Oram
Vettori
Tuffey
?????
even Gaffaney still has time to have a couple of good seasons at intnl level - I've used Andrew Jones' debut at 28 yrs, but recent AUS selections (Clarke excluded) have been in their late 20's - Katich, Love, Maher.............
players like Papps, How, Vincent, Cumming, Fulton, McIntosh & Gaffaney have all posted big tons..........atm Papps & McIntosh are out of touch, but the rest are still scoring runs..............as I've said b4 we do not have enough depth to be able to ignore form players simply on the basis that we either don't know how they may go or because they are seen as being an opener / top order.........IMO we should consider styles, balance & conversion rates as well as form into deciding who we would prefer in what positions.............
we've already mentioned the AUS lineup (Boon also spent time as an opener b4 dropping down the order), Vaughan has recently done so for ENG, Butcher used to bat higher from memory, as did Kirsten & Cullinan for RSA........IND has a number of players that have been used anywhere in the top 5 - Sehwag, Tendulkar, Ganguly, Dravid, Laxxman & now Yuvraj..........
so far as the NZL options go How & Fulton are presumably the more attacking style so perhaps they may be more productive not opening.........perhaps we could even see something like....
Fleming
Cumming
Sinclair
How
McIntosh
Fulton
McCullum
Oram
Vettori
Tuffey
?????
even Gaffaney still has time to have a couple of good seasons at intnl level - I've used Andrew Jones' debut at 28 yrs, but recent AUS selections (Clarke excluded) have been in their late 20's - Katich, Love, Maher.............
I'd rate Taylor ahead of McMillan in the OD pecking order, but I'm a bit disappointed in his approach to FC batting. If the majority of Taylor's innings are going to be at better than a run-a-ball, IMO he needs to stop letting the bowlers have the last laugh like they are.anzac said:
It's interesting that two of the Academy's golden boys (McCullum & Taylor) have both entered FC cricket attempting to treat provincial bowlers with absolute contempt. Perhaps rather than try to earn a black cap through weight of runs, the idea is to work on as many shots as possible, and wait for a tap on the shoulder they know is coming anyway.
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